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Old 06-20-2008, 04:44 PM   #16
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Wes and anyone else who thought that should have watched the video of the Ohio State game in Greg's first year. We were in that game for probably 75% of it because we played slow down basketball and played smart. They should have also revisited the Texas game this year where we would have won that game if we had not been completely screwed by the refs.

Even these past two years, I haven't seen Greg's style as slow as Floyd's was. We ran when we could. This past year it was hard to run when Wes was hurt, Jiri was hurt, and Rahshon was hurt. Of course, Wes couldn't apply that logic to his decision.
I see your point, but all of these games did end in losses as you pointed out. Maybe it's not just the style of play but the style of play combined with the losing.
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Old 06-20-2008, 04:45 PM   #17
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Re: Cyclone Newcomers Ready To Contribute

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I know, but for the most part they won't be starting and they will have a chance to see what the defense is doing before they get thrown to the wolves...helps a little.
Darn good point.
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Old 06-20-2008, 04:47 PM   #18
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Re: Cyclone Newcomers Ready To Contribute

One other thing, We have scratched the surface of what Mac was running at UNI.
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Old 06-20-2008, 04:50 PM   #19
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I see your point, but all of these games did end in losses as you pointed out. Maybe it's not just the style of play but the style of play combined with the losing.
Losing is the problem for everybody...
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Old 06-20-2008, 04:53 PM   #20
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One other thing, We have scratched the surface of what Mac was running at UNI.
In what way? I just think this is a very curious comment.
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Old 06-20-2008, 04:55 PM   #21
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In what way? I just think this is a very curious comment.
Where to be on the floor and when to be there...retention problems without naming names...but for the most part that problem is not a huge issue anymore.

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Old 06-20-2008, 05:25 PM   #22
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I see your point, but all of these games did end in losses as you pointed out. Maybe it's not just the style of play but the style of play combined with the losing.
I agree with you, mostly. And that is why I kept hoping that our luck would change at some point last year and we would finally pull out one of those games that we came so close in. A few more wins and everyone (players and coaches and fans) would have been much happier. And we were close in the Texas game, the Kansas State game, the Kansas game, etc. Who knows, if we win a few more games maybe a Wes Johnson is suddenly not so unhappy at Iowa State and doesn't decide to screw us over. Although for that to be true, we would have to believe Wes's side of the story.

Well, one can rest easy that we would not have lost the Texas game had we not been screwed by the refs. I have never, ever been more angry than I was when I left that game. It took me all night and 3/4ths of a bottle of wine to begin to calm down. And obviously I am not that calm yet about it
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Old 06-20-2008, 05:28 PM   #23
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I agree with you, mostly. And that is why I kept hoping that our luck would change at some point last year and we would finally pull out one of those games that we came so close in. A few more wins and everyone (players and coaches and fans) would have been much happier. And we were close in the Texas game, the Kansas State game, the Kansas game, etc. Who knows, if we win a few more games maybe a Wes Johnson is suddenly not so unhappy at Iowa State and doesn't decide to screw us over. Although for that to be true, we would have to believe Wes's side of the story.

Well, one can rest easy that we would not have lost the Texas game had we not been screwed by the refs. I have never, ever been more angry than I was when I left that game. It took me all night and 3/4ths of a bottle of wine to begin to calm down. And obviously I am not that calm yet about it
I think what we are learning here is that I am clearly not over two things:

1. The Texas game last year
2. Wes Johnson transfer

I cannot seem to mention the Texas game without qualifying it that we got screwed by the refs. And I can't mention Wes without some reference to the whole thing being a dirty deal. THANK GOD I am such an expert on everything!
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