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07-19-2008, 12:05 PM
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In my opinion, Kirk Ferentz needs to be doing hard time. Plus, every penny he has ever earned should be going to the victim and her family. EIU is run by a bunch of subhuman scum.
Concealing to a victim that she was raped a third time, without her knowledge is pure and simple, criminal...
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07-19-2008, 12:21 PM
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Why hasn't ESPN "Outside the lines" dug into this? This seems like it has 20/20 or 48 hours written all over it.
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07-19-2008, 12:32 PM
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Man I just read the 4 page letter Jeremy linked to his initial post and if 10% of it is true, everyone from Kirky boy on up needs to be canned and criminally charged. Maybe it's a good thing Kirky got his $3 million dollar salary because he might be expected to use that money to support her for a very long time.
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07-19-2008, 12:49 PM
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Does anyone that frequents the Hawkeye sites know what they're saying about the situation?
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07-19-2008, 01:00 PM
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Credits: 995,102 | Re: Op-Ed - News Reporting In The State Of Iowa - Pathetic | | Originally Posted by clonefarmer Where's Tom Witosky? I just bought that picture book today. I was looking at the page where you have to find him in a pile of garbage. I couldn't find Witosky because he blended in so well with the rest of the trash. | |
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07-19-2008, 01:03 PM
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Credits: 1,007,498 NFL: Lions NBA: Bobcats MLB: Pirates | Re: Op-Ed - News Reporting In The State Of Iowa - Pathetic | | Originally Posted by jdoggivjc Does anyone that frequents the Hawkeye sites know what they're saying about the situation? Yup.
A lot of disappointment and people feeling very sick.
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07-19-2008, 01:06 PM
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Credits: 1,353,526 | Re: Op-Ed - News Reporting In The State Of Iowa - Pathetic | | Originally Posted by SouthernHawk Yup.
A lot of disappointment and people feeling very sick. Well, they can cheer up. There's a lot more time to intimidate/threaten/assault/pay off the victim and her family to make this go away.
This is just the way things go over in Iowa City. Really, no big thing.
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07-19-2008, 02:15 PM
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The Register and the Press-Citizen are sister newspapers. They even publish a combined Sunday edition, and are both owned by Gannett. The Register is simply letting the P-C break the story. There will be full coverage in tomorrows edition.
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07-19-2008, 04:40 PM
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Credits: 1,353,526 | Re: Op-Ed - News Reporting In The State Of Iowa - Pathetic | | Originally Posted by cigaretteman The Register and the Press-Citizen are sister newspapers. They even publish a combined Sunday edition, and are both owned by Gannett. The Register is simply letting the P-C break the story. There will be full coverage in tomorrows edition. But, the problem is, until today, nearly 10 months after the assault, the Red Star has been completely incurious about the situation, even to the point of not publicly asking any really obvious questions that would would leap right out to drunken retarded poo-flinging monkeys.
A slightly interested individual with mediocre research skills could've broken open this story months ago, nearly by accident WITHOUT injuring the victim.
The Red Star has chosen not to, until this letter has forced their hand.
I wonder if they assign a reporter to it, now???
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07-19-2008, 04:43 PM
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Credits: 957,089 | Re: Op-Ed - News Reporting In The State Of Iowa - Pathetic | | Originally Posted by Jeremy Op-Ed - News Reporting In The State Of Iowa - Pathetic
Jeremy Lind
It may come as no surprise to many of us but once again the largest newspaper in the state of Iowa has done nothing to bring forth any facts or revelations in one of the state's largest news stories of the past year. Instead of acting like a body of journalists that are supposed to have integrity and serve the public, they've bent over and repeatedly taken it in the behind to protect their beloved team and sources to the East. Pathetic.
When rumors emerged about the possible rape in Iowa City involving two or more football players, the only media outlet that seemed to care about digging into the situation was the Iowa City Press Citizen. As the story unfolded and facts were being with-held from the public, the Des Moines Register seemed to act as nothing more than a mouth-piece for the University of Iowa and kept pushing out the denials and BS that would benefit their agenda of covering up a heinous crime against a young female student.
I don't want to take focus off of the injustice in Iowa City and the fact that numerous head officials and coaching staff members are alleged to have knowingly and purposefully hid and distorted information about a rape involving two or more of it's football players. Instead, I'm trying to point out a fact that in history most news stories are only uncovered because a reporter out there somewhere had a spine and sense of integrity when reporting the facts. When a public University is alleged to have covered up a brutal attack such as the one alleged, the newspapers and other media outlets have a public duty to reveal all possible information about those that directly, or indirectly, perpetrated or covered up the acts of the crime. By keeping their constituents to the East happy, the Des Moines Register has not only failed to do it's public duty, it's put other students at risk.
The Iowa City Press Citizen should be commended for their work on covering the alleged rape and it's subsequent fallout. Typically you see the home city newspapers being the least aggressive in their reporting, but in this case they're the only ones in the state showing any sort of integrity and pride in what they're supposed to be doing. Maybe I'm still bitter from growing up with constant Hawk-bias in the local paper, but regardless of past issues I've had with the work, or lack thereof, of the Des Moines Register, what they've failed to report on in this situation has caused me to not only question the integrity of the paper itself, but also the individual reporters on staff.
It's quite possible that if the same events had happened in Ames, the entire administration would have been forced to resign within a couple months - and indeed I would have led the fight for their ouster. Instead, we're sitting here many months later with nothing more than semi-official excuses from Iowa City in what could be considered one of the worst kinds of crimes - a coverup by those that we trust to protect our fragile kids when going away to college. That's not something to look lightly on.
I for one will not only be more vocal in demanding all of the facts of what happened in Iowa City, just as I would if it happened in Ames - but I will also be more vocal about my disdain and feelings for the lack of journalistic integrity that I see taking place at the one newspaper that has the potential to protect and serve more Iowans than any other. By being complacent and naive, the Des Moines Register should be ashamed of what they've failed to uncover and report on. Maybe just one of those sections dedicated to fluff pieces could have been put to better use informing the public and protecting our young, vulnerable students.
As far as those allegedly involved in the matter...
Not only should every individual at the University of Iowa that handled this case be fired immediately, they should be charged with obstruction of justice and be banned from ever serving as officials entrusted with protecting the safety of our kids. Barta, Ferentz, Mims, Mason, etc - if guilty - should all be held legally accountable for what they've allegedly done. I'm not an Iowa fan in the least, but I'm an Iowan first and foremost and this kind of action cannot be allowed under any situation or in any corner of the state. I'm appalled, shocked and saddened to think that something of this nature could happen in our state and continue without justice for many, many months.
The State of Iowa deserves better and those entrusted with the well-being of our young ones need to know that every move they make will be scrutinized from here on out.
For background on the story of the weekend that the Iowa City Press Citizen put out regarding new facts of the coverup, please check out the CF topic HERE (IC Story wow this is sad).
See attachment for letter from victim's mom. in all seriousness I believe the icpc is owned by the same entity that owns the register, with dmr taking responsibility for ops.
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07-19-2008, 04:45 PM
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Credits: 1,434,752 Year: 1997 Degree: B.S., History NFL: Seahawks MLB: Royals | Re: Op-Ed - News Reporting In The State Of Iowa - Pathetic | | Originally Posted by jmb in all seriousness I believe the icpc is owned by the same entity that owns the register, with dmr taking responsibility for ops. They are both Gannett papers.
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07-19-2008, 04:48 PM
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Credits: 957,089 | Re: Op-Ed - News Reporting In The State Of Iowa - Pathetic | | Originally Posted by Broodwich They are both Gannett papers. i have an acquintance in the hr dept at the dmr and she mentioned they have responsibilty for ops, not sure if the extends into the reporting arena or not...but that may be why the lack of dual coverage?
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07-19-2008, 04:56 PM
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07-19-2008, 04:56 PM
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I don't care if they're owned by the same parent company or not quite frankly, when the safety of kids is at stake, they should use the depths of their subscriber base to get the info out there. If there is a suggestion that the bigger and more powerful DMR didn't investigate it and instead let the little paper do the dirty work, that says to me that they put the financial interests of their paper and the relationship of reporters ahead of the public safety responsibilities.
Either way I don't accept it.
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07-19-2008, 04:56 PM
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I guess it is a case of the Des Moines Register being the newspaper that the (University of) Iowa depends on.
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