Updated Wording: Brian Kelly – A Coach First, Salesman Second

[clonefan1]

Where is Jeremy? I need an update!!! I can't handle this anymore!! I check the message board, walk away, then 5 minutes later I'm back to see if I've missed anything!!!!!

[Angie]

Originally Posted by cygoat

Please define "bashing". If someone questions the reliability of Jeremy's information, does that constitute bashing? Just curious. I don't want to cross that line and get my posts deleted.

I've only personally ever deleted two posts on this site - one laced with profanity, and one this morning that called Jeremy a name. As I said - I am the world's biggest proponent of free speech, but calling people names, making personal attacks about someone's character, or anything of that sort WILL be deleted. You can "question" whatever you want, and I personally won't delete your posts. I was making a statement pointed at the person who posted what I deleted this morning. Registering two days ago and having your first and only post calling someone a name is unacceptable. It seems a little comical to come, make accusations, and do something like that when you clearly haven't even been a member of the site long enough to READ the information Jeremy has posted.

I will also provide this link (News & Posts: New Style Of Writing On CycloneFanatic) to Jeremy's front page post about this site. As has been said before - Jeremy is not affiliated with any news outlet, he doesn't pay for advertising, he doesn't even post news "stories" - he has discussion threads about what he has heard, and he can only tell us what he knows about a process that is, by itself, ever-changing. This is a fan site.

[guitarchitect7]

I cant believe we are still talking about this.

Please people, just enjoy what this free site has to offer; Opinions and discussion about cyclone athletics.

We really need to move past all of this!

[Cybone]

Here is my 1 cent opinion (becuase it probably isn't worth 2 cents)

JP and ISU is stuck in a metaphorical "Chicken and the Egg" paradox. JP needs to sell tickets to get fans to the games, but fans will only buy tickets to see a winning team. The quick fix is to hire a nationally recognized coach, this would please fans and probably donors as well. This would sell tickets and bring in fans, but how long will that "name" coach be around? He would probably demand the max ISU is willing to pay. Then we would be out big dollars and back to where we are right now.
I personally believe that JP is taking a safe gamble here, bring in a talented off-the-radar coach. Pay him better than what he is making at his current post. Allow him to take over and see what he can do. If he fails, we aren't out much financially and we are back to where we are now. If he succeeds, HUGE payoff for everyone.
Fortunately, the new coach will have a major advantage that McCarney didn't have..........loads more talent at ISU to build on.

[joepublic]

All these Harbaugh lovers just reinforce how silly fans are.

[letsgostate]

What happens if kelly is 2-10 next year or even 4-8? Will you call it a good hire then? The Harbaugh thing is not silly...

[superfan]

Originally Posted by letsgostate

What happens if kelly is 2-10 next year or even 4-8? Will you call it a good hire then? The Harbaugh thing is not silly...

What if we hired Harbaugh and we go 2-10? What's the difference?

Let's face it folks, next year is NOT going to be a good year for us. Have you looked at our schedule for next year? I don't care if we hired Lombardi *kneels in honor* himself, we're going to have a hard time pulling a winning record next year. We have an offense that's losing almost the entire offensive line, we're losing the two sack leaders in school history, two of our best receivers, our best tailback and fullback, and we've got about six recruits coming in. Unless you're coming into a powerhouse like a Miami, Notre Dame or OSU, where you can implement a new system and have the athletes already there for a great team, ANY coach is going to have a poor year his first time around.

[m7nick]

I love you guys!

[cmoore_23]

as long as he can get some good recruits..a good OC.. with a good o-line.. i will be happy..and for D..just get a guy who is good with DB's..i personaly know that position is literaly one of the hardest..but if we can get a Good DB coach i think the team should be just fine

[Bobber]

Boy I'll really laugh if we don't hire Kelly after reading all your replies.....

Don't judge a book by it's cover and I think the same rule should apply to Kelly or whoever they hire.

Let me remind you that Bill Belichick was a relative unknown coach when he came to New England. He's not flashy and he doesn't have the highest paid roster at New England. All he's done is win 3 Super bowls and players love playing for him.

Granted we're talking about college ball and a yet to be determined coach, but give the guy a chance whoever he is. Hiring a big name doesn't necessarily equate to success.

[Rex O Herlihan]

Originally Posted by jbhtexas

What concerns me is that Kelly has 2+ years of total experience coaching in Div 1, and that coming at a "mid-major" conference school. The rest of his time has been spent at small schools. His experience at the "big time" level is very weak. In fact, I think is resume is arguably the weakest of any coach who has been seriously considered. No major conference experience, no NFL experience, etc.

I don't agree with your recruiting comparison to GMac. FB recruiting is a completely different animal than BB recruiting. Good X's and O'x can go along way in MBB, but good X's and O's don't go nearly as far in Div 1A major conference FB, where you need essentially 22 starters of a certain caliber to compete successfully.

I'm concerned that Kelly lacks the resources to recruit successfully at the Big 12 level, and I'm concerend that he doesn't have the status to attract assistant coaches who can recruit at the Big 12 level, unless ADJP is going to open up the checking account when it comes to paying assistant salaries.

Just my thoughts...

EXACTLY, you spelled it out. Unless I am missing something.
Has he ever coached at anywhere near Big 12 level?
What areas does he have recruiting connections?
How about his assistants? Any info?

[bureshclone]

[quote='Clones Fan;47614]After all the big names that we have heard we go for a yawner.

1. Harbaugh
2. Pelini
3. Norvell
4. Chow
5. Paterson

We go with a guy that is an obvious step down from any of those guys.

Are you serious? The only candidate on this list that was interested was Harbaugh and are you saying he's on the same level as the rest? That's a joke! If any of you remotely follows COLLEGE football, you know the names of the other 4, not Harbaugh. AND how is he going to be different than Alford (every basketball player on the planet knows him but he's done great at Iowa, right?!) In the end, we'll be excited if we get somebody who wins. That will take X's and O's. I think Kelly has that.

[iowastateclone94]

My God, what a step back. I hope we don't hire Kelly. JP is going to lose alot of donor support for this one...this certainly isn't a step up from Mac.

[cyflyer]

Mac's STAFF could not do the job that was needed. What is that you say? He couldn't consistently develop players to get the job done. Yes there were moments but that is not enough. Kelly has shown he can. He's had success at all levels he's coached at. Div II, 2 National Titles; 3rd year as a Div 1A coach he's taken historcially bad program to the championship game of his conference. He's a winner and that is what we need. Harbaugh is a NAME people and his resume is lacking. It would be a huge risk to take him over people with a better resume based solely on a name. Yes, he done some things at the Div 1AA NON-SCHOLARSHIP level. Wow, a private Catholic school on with a view of the Pacific is having success with a former NFL QB at the helm. Shocker.

[CYKO TY]

This is a little bit of a let down for me as well. I think Keppy would make a great coach but I am concerned that he will not be able to bring much talent to Ames.