Iowa State Set To Introduce Brian Kelly Monday Evening

edenclone · 11-26-2006, 06:18 PM

Honest question Jeremy. What happened with Harbaugh? Both this site and CN were positive it was Harbaugh, no doubt about it. You had 15 sources, CN had a ton of sources, and it's not him?? What happened??

9seven · 11-26-2006, 06:20 PM

Originally Posted by Seth

I don't know if anyone has mentioned or even thought of this yet, but why would JP say he'd pay up to 1.75M if he could get the right guy, then make the hire stating he got his #1 choice, only to pay him .75-1.0M?

Presumably, the right guy would be your #1 choice...so why would you get a guy for half of what you're willing to pay? Seems to me that if the new coach is indeed Kelly, then either Kelly is a sh!tty negotiator or JP is spinning the new hire a little too much...

I'm not sure I stated that in the most clear and concise way, but does anyone see where I'm going with this?

I follow you Seth. Pollard said he'd pay up to 1.75 million for the right coach. Then he said he'd got his number one guy all along. So shouldn't that mean Kelly is getting 1.75 million? I hope not!!!

crash_zone · 11-26-2006, 06:21 PM

Originally Posted by Seth

I don't know if anyone has mentioned or even thought of this yet, but why would JP say he'd pay up to 1.75M if he could get the right guy, then make the hire stating he got his #1 choice, only to pay him .75-1.0M?

Presumably, the right guy would be your #1 choice...so why would you get a guy for half of what you're willing to pay? Seems to me that if the new coach is indeed Kelly, then either Kelly is a sh!tty negotiator or JP is spinning the new hire a little too much...

I'm not sure I stated that in the most clear and concise way, but does anyone see where I'm going with this?

well, Kelly could probably only push the pay to a rate comparible to the other school after him. You can't go into a job interview saying "x will only pay me .5M, but I'll only work for you if you pay me 1.75M." Who knows?

crash_zone · 11-26-2006, 06:22 PM

Originally Posted by edenclone

Honest question Jeremy. What happened with Harbaugh? Both this site and CN were positive it was Harbaugh, no doubt about it. You had 15 sources, CN had a ton of sources, and it's not him?? What happened??

Didn't someone say earlier that his interview didn't go the best?

mt85 · 11-26-2006, 06:22 PM

No matter who is hired every day waisted in the transition is critical. Once you've signed the agreement it is important for the new coach to start assembling a staff and hitting the recruiting trail. This team needs some immediate help. We don't have the depth to miss out on a recruiting season. The new staff has until the beginning of February to assemble a staff and get 25 recruits to commit. A new coach is going to need every day possible to get that done.

arkycy · 11-26-2006, 06:24 PM

I have mixed feelings about the when and why of announcing the hiring of our new coach on Monday. No matter how you look at it, there are pluses and minuses either way. The one thing that impresses me is his ability to recruit kids from the warmer climes to go north to play. Central Michigan can be as bad or worse (more than likely worse) than central Iowa during October and November. As a CYCLONE fan, I feel obligated to buy into the new program. Enough said!!

Jeremy · 11-26-2006, 06:27 PM

Harbaugh really didn't do good in his interview from my understanding. All signs pointed to him for a while but that could have been partly due to his people pushing him so hard.

Rex O Herlihan · 11-26-2006, 06:28 PM

Originally Posted by edenclone

Honest question Jeremy. What happened with Harbaugh? Both this site and CN were positive it was Harbaugh, no doubt about it. You had 15 sources, CN had a ton of sources, and it's not him?? What happened??

That is why I do not think it is Kelly. We have trusted these "sources" before and been burned. Also, if it was him I think the introduction would be Thurs.

Seth · 11-26-2006, 06:28 PM

Originally Posted by crash_zone

well, Kelly could probably only push the pay to a rate comparible to the other school after him. You can't go into a job interview saying "x will only pay me .5M, but I'll only work for you if you pay me 1.75M." Who knows?

Sure, Kelly's only leverage would be what MSU or other schools were offering, so I get that. But...that's not quite where I'm going with this. If Kelly really was JP's #1 pick all along, I don't think he would have set the cap at 1.75M. Nothing against Kelly, but does anyone see him actually pulling down that kind of cash? I mean, why set the ceiling so high if the guy you're going after isn't going to demand anywhere near the cap?

I guess what I'm really saying here is that I don't buy that Kelly was JP's top choice. Yeah, this is just speculation, but I don't see Kelly coming with a 1.75M sticker price, and I don't think he was JP's #1 target. I see two possible options: 1. JP is spinning the new hire or 2. the new hire isn't Kelly. I guess we'll find out soon (but not soon enough)...

mt85 · 11-26-2006, 06:30 PM

Originally Posted by 9seven

I follow you Seth. Pollard said he'd pay up to 1.75 million for the right coach. Then he said he'd got his number one guy all along. So shouldn't that mean Kelly is getting 1.75 million? I hope not!!!

Why would you assume that the most expensive coach is the number one choice. The top choice may have been a coach on the rise that could be attracted to ISU for less. If that coach didn't come to ISU then maybe the second choice was a higher paid coach that wouldn't come to ISU for less than that type of money.

9seven · 11-26-2006, 06:33 PM

Originally Posted by mt85

Why would you assume that the most expensive coach is the number one choice. The top choice may have been a coach on the rise that could be attracted to ISU for less. If that coach didn't come to ISU then maybe the second choice was a higher paid coach that wouldn't come to ISU for less than that type of money.

Thats definately a possability too!!

Jeremy · 11-26-2006, 06:34 PM

Originally Posted by Rex O Herlihan

That is why I do not think it is Kelly. We have trusted these "sources" before and been burned. Also, if it was him I think the introduction would be Thurs.

I fully understand your hesitation and you probably read mine yesterday and this morning as well. I have talked to a lot of sources and feel pretty confident that we have it right. Obviously JP, Harris, Geoffrey and the new coach know absolutely for sure but it's probably pretty safe to believe what I've been told.

Seth · 11-26-2006, 06:37 PM

Originally Posted by mt85

Why would you assume that the most expensive coach is the number one choice. The top choice may have been a coach on the rise that could be attracted to ISU for less. If that coach didn't come to ISU then maybe the second choice was a higher paid coach that wouldn't come to ISU for less than that type of money.

Certainly food for thought, but I guess my instincts tell me that this isn't the case. I'm not sure about the wording, but I thought JP said something to the effect of "if we can get the right guy, we're willing to pay up to 1.75M." My reasoning is that if you really want a guy, that is, if someone is your top choice, then it seems like you'd be willing to spend more to get that person. There's a reason BMW's cost more than Chevy's...people want them more and they're willing to pay more for them. I guess I think that same logic transfers over into hiring a football coach.

chuckd4735 · 11-26-2006, 06:48 PM

I am curious to why they were metting all the way down in Dallas to take care of this?? Would you meet him somewhere close to Michigan or at leats half way between Iowa and Michigan??? Also, He play in his conference championship this weekend. I find it hard to believe that he is going to come down to Ames tomarrow to accept this job when he should be getting his team ready. I am not going to believe it Kelly until I hear it for sure.

JCloned · 11-26-2006, 06:52 PM

I am not sure there was a public quote on what JP was willing to spend. Wasn't that that also reported by either Jeremy or CN. My point is JP has obviously kept us at bay on who, what makes you think we are just as blind on how much he intended to pay.