Update on Men's Basketball

Jeremy · 06-09-2006, 12:53 PM

Update on Men's Basketball
Jeremy
CycloneFanatic.com

I wanted to take a second to help clarify a few things regarding Men's Basketball and the current situations that relate to it.

Iowa State will not know what action, if any, the NCAA will take in regards to current or prior situations for a while. With the possibility that up to two scholarships could be taken away, Iowa State is proactively looking at all the possible situations that may arise. While the new rules are not very clear to anybody at this time, it is thought that in the possibility that ISU would lose two scholarships, they could either be deferred a year or split up over two years.
P'Allen Stinnett appears very interested in Iowa State. With that said, it appears unlikely that ISU would ask for, or accept, a commitment from him at this time. There are several high ranking recruits that the coaching staff has interest in and they are trying to evaluate the possibility of losing scholarships and what that means in regards to potential players. P'Allen would be a great player to land but there are other prospects that could be considered favorites due to their position (i.e. Point Guard).
I had a lengthy conversation with a very credible source that feels extremely confident there are some great recruiting stories for the Men's Basketball program that will unveil themselves as the summer grows older. There may be some tricks up the sleeves of the coaching staff that may surprise us all once again.

clone33 · 06-09-2006, 01:06 PM

you've aroused my curiousity [img]style_emoticons/<#EMO_DIR#>/dry.gif[/img]

cllions05 · 06-09-2006, 01:20 PM

What are some available Point Guards higher ranked that Stinnett?

Bullishcy2 · 06-09-2006, 01:20 PM

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Jeremy @ Jun 9 2006, 12:53 PM) Quoted post</div><div class='quotemain'> Update on Men's Basketball
Jeremy
CycloneFanatic.com

I wanted to take a second to help clarify a few things regarding Men's Basketball and the current situations that relate to it.

Iowa State will not know what action, if any, the NCAA will take in regards to current or prior situations for a while. With the possibility that up to two scholarships could be taken away, Iowa State is proactively looking at all the possible situations that may arise. While the new rules are not very clear to anybody at this time, it is thought that in the possibility that ISU would lose two scholarships, they could either be deferred a year or split up over two years.
P'Allen Stinnett appears very interested in Iowa State. With that said, it appears unlikely that ISU would ask for, or accept, a commitment from him at this time. There are several high ranking recruits that the coaching staff has interest in and they are trying to evaluate the possibility of loosing scholarships and what that means in regards to potential players. P'Allen would be a great player to land but there are other prospects that could be considered favorites due to their position (i.e. Point Guard).
I had a lengthy conversation with a very credible source that feels extremely confident there are some great recruiting stories for the Men's Basketball program that will unveil themselves as the summer grows older. There may be some tricks up the sleeves of the coaching staff that may surprise us all once again.

[/b][/quote] Two issues...

1. This morning you said you would not be surprised to see Stinnet commit this weekend (something about already ordering a cardinal and gold jersey), now the coaching staff won't accept a commitment from him????

2. Could the third bullet point by any more non-descriptive? C'mon, you're leaving it at that?

Jeremy · 06-09-2006, 01:24 PM

I had reason to believe last night that Stinnett would be a Cyclone, I thought that this morning, and am now undecided. While I think he could be a Cyclone and should be a Cyclone, I have spoken to somebody that I feel is very knowledgeable about the situation and he has cautioned me not to be too optomistic about P'Allen right now.

If things go the way the coaching staff would like, Stinnett will be a Cyclone. If things don't necessarily go the way we all would like, P'Allen probably isn't going to be a Clone. It's not an easy topic for the coaching staff or anybody right now because nobody really knows what's going on. I have heard many mixed stories and accounts of discussions, etc. I think right now it is best for me to pull back my statements from last night and this morning about P'Allen becoming a Cyclone. He may or not but at this time it't highly fluid and uncertain.

Bullishcy2 · 06-09-2006, 01:30 PM

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Jeremy @ Jun 9 2006, 01:24 PM) Quoted post</div><div class='quotemain'> I had reason to believe last night that Stinnett would be a Cyclone, I thought that this morning, and am now undecided. While I think he could be a Cyclone and should be a Cyclone, I have spoken to somebody that I feel is very knowledgeable about the situation and he has cautioned me not to be too optomistic about P'Allen right now.

If things go the way the coaching staff would like, Stinnett will be a Cyclone. If things don't necessarily go the way we all would like, P'Allen probably isn't going to be a Clone. It's not an easy topic for the coaching staff or anybody right now because nobody really knows what's going on. I have heard many mixed stories and accounts of discussions, etc. I think right now it is best for me to pull back my statements from last night and this morning about P'Allen becoming a Cyclone. He may or not but at this time it't highly fluid and uncertain. [/b][/quote]

Still a contradicting statement. Above you say that we may pass on Stinnet for a higher ranked recruit. Now you are saying if everything goes as planned, Stinnet will be a cyclone. So which is it? Wouldn't everything going as planned mean we landed the higher ranked recruit that we put Stinnet off for?????

MNclone · 06-09-2006, 01:36 PM

Everything going as planned means we don't have reduced scholarships for 07.

bmuff · 06-09-2006, 01:37 PM

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Bullishcy2 @ Jun 9 2006, 01:30 PM) Quoted post</div><div class='quotemain'>

Still a contradicting statement. Above you say that we may pass on Stinnet for a higher ranked recruit. Now you are saying if everything goes as planned, Stinnet will be a cyclone. So which is it? Wouldn't everything going as planned mean we landed the higher ranked recruit that we put Stinnet off for?????

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I take it that the holdup is the NCAA. If ISU ends up losing two scholarships this year, then there's no way that Stinnett is a Clone, because they need a true PG worse than a combo/swing guard. Now, if ISU isn't penalized at all, then P'Allen will be offered. If ISU can split the penalty (one scholarship this year and one next), then it's up to the coaches whether Stinnett is the direction they want to go for their last scholarship.

monkeybrow · 06-09-2006, 01:43 PM

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Bullishcy2 @ Jun 9 2006, 12:30 PM) Quoted post</div><div class='quotemain'>

Still a contradicting statement. Above you say that we may pass on Stinnet for a higher ranked recruit. Now you are saying if everything goes as planned, Stinnet will be a cyclone. So which is it? Wouldn't everything going as planned mean we landed the higher ranked recruit that we put Stinnet off for?????

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one would think Jeremy's is getting paid for the great job he does... with the way you are biting his nuggets regarding statement structure.

Jeremy · 06-09-2006, 02:19 PM

My comments weren't contradictory in nature, just may have come across that way. What I was trying to say is that if we don't lose scholarships, Stinnett would be a great player for us, regardless of who else we decide to get. If we lose a scholarship or two, we have to find the best player to fill in any possible holes, that would mean a point guard.

The priority right now, from the mouth of someone in the program, is a point guard, big man, and then power forward/shooter (ie Stinnett). If we have three or more scholarships, Stinnett is an awesome player to get, if not, he doesn't fill in the holes that we would have and wouldn't provide nearly the benefit he would as a compliment for the other players.

Jeremy · 06-09-2006, 02:23 PM

P.S. - I know you didn't mean to sound angry but if you want to know exactly what will happen, you will need to hire a pychic. We are talking about a very fluid topic with teen agers and their inability to make decisions, let alone the NCAA's strange rule wording.

I just have this up for people to know what is on the minds of the people in the know at the current moment, not necessarily what will happen, check the newspaper after the fact if you want 100% correct reporting all the time. It's this type of thing I have tried to avoid by not reporting much on POTENTIAL recruits over the past month. I don't get paid at all for this site and therefore the best reporter I can afford to word the statements for me, is myself:)

ornryactor · 06-09-2006, 02:25 PM

Sorry for being out of the loop here, but:

Why would the NCAA take away two of our scholarships? What did we do, and when?

hfthomp · 06-09-2006, 02:28 PM

What I don't get is why we need a PG more than a SG in 07? McIntosh will be a junior next year and Doodie will be a freshman. So, in 07, we will still have both of them. At SG, all we really have is Taylor, right? Wouldn't SG be more of a need area for some depth?

URBCLONE · 06-09-2006, 02:37 PM

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(monkeybrow @ Jun 9 2006, 01:43 PM) Quoted post</div><div class='quotemain'>

one would think Jeremy's is getting paid for the great job he does... with the way you are biting his nuggets regarding statement structure. [/b][/quote]

Too funny

Bullishcy2 · 06-09-2006, 02:39 PM

<div class='quotetop'>QUOTE(Jeremy @ Jun 9 2006, 02:19 PM) Quoted post</div><div class='quotemain'> My comments weren't contradictory in nature, just may have come across that way. What I was trying to say is that if we don't lose scholarships, Stinnett would be a great player for us, regardless of who else we decide to get. If we lose a scholarship or two, we have to find the best player to fill in any possible holes, that would mean a point guard.

The priority right now, from the mouth of someone in the program, is a point guard, big man, and then power forward/shooter (ie Stinnett). If we have three or more scholarships, Stinnett is an awesome player to get, if not, he doesn't fill in the holes that we would have and wouldn't provide nearly the benefit he would as a compliment for the other players. [/b][/quote]

That makes sense. Thanks for the explanantion. I understand this is a very fluid subject, just didn't quite grasp what suddenly changed from this morning to this afternoon.

Also, why do I have a Warn bar next to my name on my posts?