Big East FB Expansion

**gocubs2118** · 11-02-2010, 04:24 PM

Originally Posted by jdoggivjc

Surprised nobody has brought up TCU yet. That possibility has been all over the radio since first brought up on Mike and Mike this morning.

Sounds like it's going to be UCF and either Villanova or TCU.

**alarson** · 11-02-2010, 05:02 PM

Big East would be great for TCU. Its not like they dont already have a huge travel commitment in the MWC, and they could get into an auto-bid conference.

This would also **** over Boise State again, which I am just fine with. The next question would be, who will the MWC poach to replace them..

**MNCyGuy** · 11-02-2010, 05:24 PM

Originally Posted by alarson

Big East would be great for TCU. Its not like they dont already have a huge travel commitment in the MWC, and they could get into an auto-bid conference.

This would also **** over Boise State again, which I am just fine with. The next question would be, who will the MWC poach to replace them..

I'd rather have Boise finally end up in a legit conference so we can stop the constant debating about them. The MWC is going to end up being WAC 2.0 if TCU leaves, but Boise isn't going away any time soon.

**everyyard** · 11-02-2010, 05:28 PM

The problem with bcs conferences elevating teams into the bcs is that if the **** ever goes down with four 16 team megaconferences it means more teams to pick from other than isu. Also, less room for us to crowd into another bcs conference if the bigxii goes down.

**HoopsTournament** · 11-02-2010, 05:42 PM

Originally Posted by everyyard

The problem with bcs conferences elevating teams into the bcs is that if the **** ever goes down with four 16 team megaconferences it means more teams to pick from other than isu. Also, less room for us to crowd into another bcs conference if the bigxii goes down.

The more teams that join BCS conferences, the less likely there will be FOUR megaconferences and the more likely there will be FIVE. I still think Texas controls all of the cards and they won't divide the pot 16 ways unless it is to their advantage and it will be in the Big "12" if it happens.

**edr247** · 11-03-2010, 03:34 PM

There was a time where ND was practically begging to be part of the Big Ten, but the Big Ten just kept looking the other way. Now, if ND had to join a conference, they wouldn't join the Big Ten, unless we're offering them tons of money or something.

They'll likely go to the Big East, where their other sports are, and where they can likely gain the upper hand. At their current state, I don't think they're any better than the middle of the pack Big Ten teams. Most certainly wouldn't be heading to a BCS game if they play the way they have in the past few years.

**Judoka** · 11-03-2010, 03:47 PM

TCU to the Big East also dilutes the Texas recruiting pool.

**jdoggivjc** · 11-03-2010, 04:14 PM

Originally Posted by Judoka

TCU to the Big East also dilutes the Texas recruiting pool.

Like TCU's very existence just due to their successes over the 2000s alone isn't diluting the Texas recruiting pool...

**Clonedogg** · 11-03-2010, 04:45 PM

Originally Posted by jdoggivjc

Like TCU's very existence just due to their successes over the 2000s alone isn't diluting the Texas recruiting pool...

well the whole big east could have their hand in there now too? I dont believe so, texas kids dont want to play for Cincy because "TCU didnt offer me a scholarship and i want to show them what they missed out on." I think that is reserved for Texas; T A&M; Oklahoma.

**Judoka** · 11-03-2010, 04:54 PM

Originally Posted by jdoggivjc

Like TCU's very existence just due to their successes over the 2000s alone isn't diluting the Texas recruiting pool...

We already recruit against TCU, for sure, but we don't recruit against the entire Big East. Right now the Big XII is the only AQ conference in Texas and I would prefer it stayed that way.

**jdoggivjc** · 11-04-2010, 08:27 AM

Big East =/= SEC. I'd worry about having to recruit against a league full of Texases. I'm not overly concerned about having to beat the Big East out for Texas recruits.

**CyJack13** · 11-04-2010, 08:37 AM

Originally Posted by edr247

There was a time where ND was practically begging to be part of the Big Ten, but the Big Ten just kept looking the other way. Now, if ND had to join a conference, they wouldn't join the Big Ten, unless we're offering them tons of money or something.

They'll likely go to the Big East, where their other sports are, and where they can likely gain the upper hand. At their current state, I don't think they're any better than the middle of the pack Big Ten teams. Most certainly wouldn't be heading to a BCS game if they play the way they have in the past few years.

When was ND ever begging to join the B10? They turned the B10 down in the late 80's when they added Penn St. They turned them down this time and they've turned them down every other time they've asked. The B10 has been begging ND to join, not the other way around.

**jdoggivjc** · 11-04-2010, 08:48 AM

Originally Posted by CyJack13

When was ND ever begging to join the B10? They turned the B10 down in the late 80's when they added Penn St. They turned them down this time and they've turned them down every other time they've asked. The B10 has been begging ND to join, not the other way around.

1950s and 60s ND was begging to get into the Big 10 - and the Big 10 didn't want them.

**cyguytillidie** · 11-04-2010, 08:53 AM

Yeah they have been talking about TCU and Houston to the Big East for the last week. The reason for Houston is the two schools can be traveling partners.

**HFCS** · 11-04-2010, 09:11 AM

Auto bids to BCS bowls need to go bye bye. At the very least if the MWC doesn't get one the Big East should be stripped as well.

A FCS school, Villanova, has a better shot at a BCS bowl than several dozen more deserving FBS team. Half the Big East was not even FBS a few years ago.

Now is ND's time to try to be the "Texas" of their own conference. It'll never happen in the B10. I actually think it's the smart move for them to join up now, 10 team very average football league they can call the shots in, 16 team basketball league second only to the new meat grinder Big 12.