NCAA: Cam Newton eligible

**Wesley** · 12-01-2010, 01:39 PM

Originally Posted by Judoka

How does that even work. He passed the buck to his dad so since when is willful ignorance a valid defense?

George Lawson, an attorney who said he was representing the Newton family, told WSB-TV of Atlanta on Nov. 18 that he was "1 million percent" certain Cam Newton did not take any money.

That is more than $200k.

**cycloneworld** · 12-01-2010, 01:45 PM

Absolutely hilarious the NCAA doesn't suspend an athlete for pay-to-play (even if it was done by his dad w/o him knowing) but will suspend Lucca Staiger for a year because he took NO money but played with guys who did. Or will suspend A.J. Green for 4 games because he sold his jersey for a few hundred bucks.

When will people start holding the NCAA accountable for this?

**djcubby** · 12-01-2010, 01:46 PM

But he doesn't mention anything about Cecil not taking any money!!

**Wesley** · 12-01-2010, 01:48 PM

Originally Posted by rebecacy

My guess is the FBI will have a cleaner solution. They will take Cam's dad down to send a clear and ugly message to the parents and handlers of these kids. I can also see some merit in that approach.

Gene says please wait till 1 Feb 11.

**CRcyclone6** · 12-01-2010, 02:04 PM

Well atleast the Alabama pregame music guy got let go. Finally accountability in this debacle!!

**dualthreat** · 12-01-2010, 02:13 PM

Originally Posted by CtownCyclone

Aha, the old "I didn't know about it" defense...give me a break. Think I'll try that at work and see how far that gets me.

If you are the best employee in the country, they will sweep it under the rug.. no difference.

It not just this way in college football, its that way in all sports and in "life" in general.

**Cyhart** · 12-01-2010, 02:15 PM

Originally Posted by cycloneworld

Absolutely hilarious the NCAA doesn't suspend an athlete for pay-to-play (even if it was done by his dad w/o him knowing) but will suspend Lucca Staiger for a year because he took NO money but played with guys who did. Or will suspend A.J. Green for 4 games because he sold his jersey for a few hundred bucks.

When will people start holding the NCAA accountable for this?

Absolutely. And remember the Jiri Hubalek deal? Suspended for like 9 games for accepting, what, a pair of jeans and a car from his host family?! And even Royce White. Cant play but he never played a minute at Minny.
The NCAA is the biggest JOKE ever. If I ever come face to face with an NCAA official, I would literally laugh in their face.

**Tre4ISU** · 12-01-2010, 02:16 PM

Originally Posted by VeloClone

What about the "I'd like to play there but it's just too much money" comment? That was attributed to Cam, not Cecil.

So you want to deem him ineligible because he didnt take money?

**VeloClone** · 12-01-2010, 02:20 PM

Originally Posted by yaman3

So you want to deem him ineligible because he didnt take money?

No, the implication was that his Dad wasn't going to let him play for Miss St. because Auburn was offering too much money. If his Dad took money for him to play, then he should be ineligible. It doesn't matter if the name was Cecil or Cam on the envelope full of dead presidents.

**Cyclonepride** · 12-01-2010, 02:22 PM

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**Tre4ISU** · 12-01-2010, 02:22 PM

Originally Posted by VeloClone

No, the implication was that his Dad wasn't going to let him play for Miss St. because Auburn was offering too much money. If his Dad took money for him to play, then he should be ineligible. It doesn't matter if the name was Cecil or Cam on the envelope full of dead presidents.

Where is this implication that Auburn offered money? I have not seen that. Also, what's this tigerbait thing? I haven't heard about that either.

**synapticwave** · 12-01-2010, 02:29 PM

I think the most stunning part of this is that it took the NCAA 2 days to make a ruling. When has the NCAA EVER done anything in 2 days.

**HFCS** · 12-01-2010, 02:32 PM

Originally Posted by tazclone

Reggie knew about it.

BTW- This could be exactly like Reggie Bush as it tkes time to do the investigation and new evidence comes up in the future.

Lucca didn't know about it and he got a year suspension.

And that wasn't even about him, it was about a couple teammates on an otherwise average team taking a few hundred bucks.

There is so much inconsistency here it's not even funny.

I get the poster saying Cam is good and should play and he wants to see him play. Let's just be consistent. Auburn can't run an NFL franchise paying Heisman candidates while ISU gets pounded into oblivion for trying to get an average player eligible who has never taken a dime to play hoops.

**rebecacy** · 12-01-2010, 02:33 PM

Originally Posted by yaman3

No, it's a violation but not a suspendable offense.

Because obviously that is a similar situation. Besides that there is no proof the money was offered. There is proof that it was talked about and requested by Cecil Newton, but there is nothing that says that Miss St. was going to do it. I'm sorry, but I refuse to hop on the bandwagon of this thing without having some sort of eveidence that Auburn or Cam were in the wrong. Cecil Newton was in the wrong as far as we know. Just because our ex coach who some seem to have an infatuation with could be in some trouble doesn't mean we totally look over the severe lack of evidence in relation to Cam or Auburn. If it comes out and there is evidence that they were in the wrong, fine. Then I will have no problem running this kid through the mud, but right now I can't and won't do it. There has been a lot more harm done by running him through the mud in the case he is actually innocent than there will be good done by running him through the mud in the case he is guilty. Honestly, what if you are Cam Newton and you have never heard any of this stuff until this point? Is it really fair?

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**synapticwave** · 12-01-2010, 02:36 PM

Originally Posted by yaman3

Where is this implication that Auburn offered money? I have not seen that. Also, what's this tigerbait thing? I haven't heard about that either.

The implication is that Auburn offered more money is derived from Cam saying, "I can't attend Miss St, the money is not good enough." Which insinuates that Auburn must have paid more.

Tigerbait is about how a member of the Auburn Board of Trustees, Bobby Lowder, who's bank took $2 billion in bailout money and then folded a few months later has a history of medaling with the School for political gain and personal profit. Read all about it here:
As the Plains Burn......(Updated 12-1-2010) - SEC Football - TigerDroppings.com
Purely speculation, but if it were true, Auburn would lose their accreditation.