Malzhan 1.3 million a year.

**nickwc** · 12-13-2010, 10:14 PM

Originally Posted by yaman3

Guz Malzahn, IMO is in a three way tie for the best offensive minds in football. Guys a genius. Seriously. RichRod, Chip Kelly and him have brilliant offensive minds. Chip is the only one who has shown any sort of defense though. He may be the best coach in America. I like Nick Saban a lot, but I don't know if he could do what he does at a school with somewhat small tradition.

Haha what? Nick Saban was at Michigan State not that long ago.

**Tre4ISU** · 12-13-2010, 10:20 PM

Originally Posted by nickwc

Haha what? Nick Saban was at Michigan State not that long ago.

And he was pretty mediocre there. I will give him the ten wins even though he was only there for 9 of them but prior to that his win totals were, 6, 6, 7, 6. Not exactly what he did at LSU and Bama. That was my point. CHip Kelly was responsible for what Oregon has become. Yes, he has a ton of money, but that doesn't always generate success. Rich Rod has also built somethings out of nothings. Don't get me wrong, Nick Saban is an incredible football coaches but I think he operates better with the tradition while someone like RR, to this point at least, does not.

**HiltonMagic** · 12-13-2010, 10:27 PM

Originally Posted by yaman3

And he was pretty mediocre there. I will give him the ten wins even though he was only there for 9 of them but prior to that his win totals were, 6, 6, 7, 6. Not exactly what he did at LSU and Bama. That was my point. CHip Kelly was responsible for what Oregon has become. Yes, he has a ton of money, but that doesn't always generate success. Rich Rod has also built somethings out of nothings. Don't get me wrong, Nick Saban is an incredible football coaches but I think he operates better with the tradition while someone like RR, to this point at least, does not.

Yeah, that Michigan was a real nothing before he got there...

**mt85** · 12-13-2010, 10:33 PM

I'm not discrediting Gus Malzahn, but there are probably a lot of OC that could have been exceptional with Cam Newton as their QB.

Apparently there is no price too high for winning at Auburn. How much will they pay Cecil to get another year from Cam? $5 million? $10 million? And will anyone care as long as they are entertained?

I'm pretty sure the NCAA won't care as long as they are making lots of money.

**CycloneErik** · 12-13-2010, 10:33 PM

Originally Posted by HiltonMagic

Yeah, that Michigan was a real nothing before he got there...

I think he's saying that West Virginia wasn't good before Rodriguez got there, but he built them into a powerhouse.

Stepping into a school at Michigan with all of their tradition, he hasn't done a thing.

**Cyclones26** · 12-13-2010, 10:34 PM

Gene Chizik is part of the Illuminati.

**Tre4ISU** · 12-13-2010, 10:41 PM

Originally Posted by HiltonMagic

Yeah, that Michigan was a real nothing before he got there...

Yeah, Michigan is who I was talking about. I obviously wasn't talking about West Virginia, Tulane or Clemson. Read the whole post.

**HiltonMagic** · 12-13-2010, 10:47 PM

Originally Posted by yaman3

Yeah, Michigan is who I was talking about. I obviously wasn't talking about West Virginia, Tulane or Clemson. Read the whole post.

guess I missed when they were in the NC game...

**Tre4ISU** · 12-13-2010, 10:52 PM

Originally Posted by HiltonMagic

guess I missed when they were in the NC game...

Because to be a something in college football you have to be in the NC game. Like Boise, TCU or Oklahoma St. That's how they got where they are, by consistently being there.

**HiltonMagic** · 12-13-2010, 10:55 PM

Originally Posted by yaman3

Because to be a something in college football you have to be in the NC game. Like Boise, TCU or Oklahoma St. That's how they got where they are, by consistently being there.

Well when you're comparing him to guys who have been in the NC...

**Tre4ISU** · 12-13-2010, 10:59 PM

Originally Posted by HiltonMagic

Well when you're comparing him to guys who have been in the NC...

Yeah, for their first time. And I didn't compare him to them, I put him in group of great offensive minds with them.

**HiltonMagic** · 12-13-2010, 11:02 PM

Originally Posted by yaman3

Yeah, for their first time. And I didn't compare him to them, I put him in group of great offensive minds with them.

Saban is a great offensive mind?

and isn't putting someone in a group comparing them to the others in said group?

**Tre4ISU** · 12-13-2010, 11:11 PM

Originally Posted by HiltonMagic

Saban is a great offensive mind?

and isn't putting someone in a group comparing them to the others in said group?

No, that is why he wasn't in that group of three I initially stated. If you would have read the entire post instead of generating an argument for no reason, you would have gotten that. And no, I made no comparisons among the three. I simply said they may be the three best offensive minds. Nothing more, nothing less.