RichRod done?

**Tre4ISU** · 01-04-2011, 02:04 PM

Originally Posted by Cycsk

Yeah, I guess that there is a unique appeal for him at Michigan.

While Michigan is outstanding academically, it is not the same as Stanford from top to bottom in the student body, particularly among athletes. When I have visited Stanford, it seems like every student is serious about school and on an intercollegiete athletic team.

Actually, Michigan, among athletes is one of the highest scoring SAT schools in BCS conferences. I think they were third a couple years ago and actually Iowa was in the top 10 though as well.

Here's something from 2008
Athletes Show Huge Gaps in SAT Scores - The Paper Trail (usnews.com)

In no way do I think Michigan is the same academically but they are definately in the top tier. My point was just that it's not Cincinnatti.

**Tornado man** · 01-04-2011, 02:13 PM

Originally Posted by yaman3

Actually, Michigan, among athletes is one of the highest scoring SAT schools in BCS conferences. I think they were third a couple years ago and actually Iowa was in the top 10 though as well.

Michigan football finished next-to-last in the number of players (3.0 or above) on the 2010 Big Ten all-Academic team, with 8. Ohio State had 22.

**Tre4ISU** · 01-04-2011, 02:16 PM

Originally Posted by Tornado man

Michigan football finished next-to-last in the number of players (3.0 or above) on the 2010 Big Ten all-Academic team, with 8. Ohio State had 22.

Link?

**Cycsk** · 01-04-2011, 02:16 PM

Originally Posted by yaman3

Actually, Michigan, among athletes is one of the highest scoring SAT schools in BCS conferences. I think they were third a couple years ago and actually Iowa was in the top 10 though as well.

Here's something from 2008
Athletes Show Huge Gaps in SAT Scores - The Paper Trail (usnews.com)

In no way do I think Michigan is the same academically but they are definately in the top tier. My point was just that it's not Cincinnatti.

All I know is that I visit a lot of campuses and none has ever struck me as being so athetlically-oriented as Stanford. Yet, they are also so strong academically, including very high minimum standards.

And isn't Stanford the institution that usually wins the Athetic Directors award for best overall performation in Division I sports?

Edited because I looked it up. Stanford has won the Director's Cup every year since 1994-95. However, Michigan has been in the Top 6 for 8 of the last 10 years.

**Tre4ISU** · 01-04-2011, 02:18 PM

Originally Posted by Cycsk

All I know is that I visit a lot of campuses and none has ever struck me as being so athetlically-oriented as Stanford. Yet, they are also so strong academically, including very high minimum standards.

And isn't Stanford the institution that usually wins the Athetic Directors award for best overall performation in Division I sports?

That kind of surprises me because the perception kind of seems like the fanbase is unengaged. I haven't been there so I could speak to how the campus acts though and I would assume that they are annually near the top of the Nation.

**Cycsk** · 01-04-2011, 02:20 PM

Originally Posted by yaman3

That kind of surprises me because the perception kind of seems like the fanbase is unengaged. I haven't been there so I could speak to how the campus acts though and I would assume that they are annually near the top of the Nation.

Stanford has won the Director's Cup every year since 1994-95. However, Michigan has been in the Top 6 for 8 of the last 10 years.

NACDA Directors' Cup - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

**Tornado man** · 01-04-2011, 02:34 PM

Originally Posted by yaman3

Link?

The claims that RichRod has improved academics in AA are a bunch of hooey:

Big Ten Announces Fall Academic All-Conference Honorees - BIG TEN OFFICIAL ATHLETIC SITE

Number of players on Big Ten Football all-Academic team - 2010

Northwestern - 32
Wisconsin - 22
Ohio State - 22
Indiana - 22
Penn State -17
Iowa - 16
Minnesota - 15
Purdue - 14
Michigan State - 13
Michigan - 8
Illinois - 7

**Tre4ISU** · 01-04-2011, 07:04 PM

Originally Posted by Tornado man

The claims that RichRod has improved academics in AA are a bunch of hooey:

Big Ten Announces Fall Academic All-Conference Honorees - BIG TEN OFFICIAL ATHLETIC SITE

Number of players on Big Ten Football all-Academic team - 2010

Northwestern - 32
Wisconsin - 22
Ohio State - 22
Indiana - 22
Penn State -17
Iowa - 16
Minnesota - 15
Purdue - 14
Michigan State - 13
Michigan - 8
Illinois - 7

Based on their all conference standouts. Ok, whatever.

**cigaretteman** · 01-05-2011, 10:21 AM

Looks like it's official now

Michigan coach Rich Rodriguez has been fired | detnews.com | The Detroit News

**Tre4ISU** · 01-05-2011, 11:04 AM

Please fon't let it be Brady Hoke or Les Miles. Just not Les Miles.

**Wesley** · 01-05-2011, 11:05 AM

The school confirmed Wednesday that Rodriguez had been let go after going 15-22 in three years at Michigan and a handful of NCAA violations that have stained the once-proud program. The school can buy out the final three years of his contract for $2.5 million.

Rodriguez's final season was pivotal and it didn't go well on or off the field.

He helped the Wolverines win seven games to earn a postseason bid, then watched helplessly on New Year's Day as Mississippi State handed them their worst bowl beating - a 38-point drubbing - in the Gator Bowl.

Rodriguez finished the year 7-6, but lost six of the last eight games. He was 1-11 against ranked teams and 0-6 combined against rivals Ohio State and Michigan State.

**CyJack13** · 01-05-2011, 11:05 AM

Originally Posted by yaman3

Please fon't let it be Brady Hoke or Les Miles. Just not Les Miles.

Who would you like to see them hire, assuming Harbaugh isn't in the picture?

**CarolinaCy** · 01-05-2011, 11:10 AM

Originally Posted by yaman3

Please fon't let it be Brady Hoke or Les Miles. Just not Les Miles.

I found this line from the mgoblog funny regarding the potential hire of Hoke:

"I promise you this: if Brady Hoke is actually hired small children should not read the site for a week following because every other word will be swearing. This is in no way a joke."

**Tre4ISU** · 01-05-2011, 11:10 AM

Originally Posted by CyJack13

Who would you like to see them hire, assuming Harbaugh isn't in the picture?

I don't know. I was of the opinion that if you can't get Harbaugh, you stay with RR and try to get a good DC. I'm not convinced Harbaugh is out of this thing because he hasn't come out and said it yet. I would have expected him to say something. I suppose I could make a list:

1. Chris Peterson
2. Pat Fitzgerald
3. Bud Foster
4. Gus Malzahn
5. Not Brady Hoke or Les Miles

That's all I've got and in makeing this list I have just removed anyone on it fom legitimate canidacy.

**Tre4ISU** · 01-05-2011, 11:12 AM

Originally Posted by CarolinaCy

I found this line from the mgoblog funny regarding the potential hire of Hoke:

"I promise you this: if Brady Hoke is actually hired small children should not read the site for a week following because every other word will be swearing. This is in no way a joke."

That's from Brian Cook. No offense to Chris at all because he does a different thing here, but Brian Cook runs a good ship over there. Some of the stuff he writes, like that little piece, is hilarious. That site is about as good as they get for content, it just isn't all that user friendly.