Big Ten's big day!

**CrossCyed** · 01-01-2011, 06:45 PM

Originally Posted by coachdags

can not figure out why we did not get chosen then, enlighten me....?

I'm trying to say we didn't have a good season by any stretch, neither did they.

**alarson** · 01-01-2011, 06:46 PM

Originally Posted by coachdags

can not figure out why we did not get chosen then, enlighten me....?

Instead of playing teams like Utah and Iowa, Northwestern scheduled Vanderbilt, Rice, Illinois State, and Central Michigan? Hard not to make a bowl with a noncon schedule like that. We play that noncon schedule, we make a bowl too.

**CycloneErik** · 01-01-2011, 06:49 PM

Originally Posted by CrossCyed

It doesn't mean as much when all the conference tie-ins land today. It has nothing to do with bias. Two teams with losing conference records played today for the Big Ten. 3-5, just like us.

The #2, #3, #4, #5 and #8 picks from the Big Ten played today.

I think we can say that negotiation for these bowl tie-ins was not an accident while saying that the Big 10 teams winning was not an accident.

But none of that takes care of the key point that those beatdowns were not an accident, nor was the general trend of losing today.

**nileo** · 01-01-2011, 06:49 PM

Big 10 > Big 12 this year. As much as we don't want to believe it, it is true. OU may be the lone exception. Michigan State was WAY over rated this year. But Wisconsin is very good. tOSU is very good. Michigan should not have been playing Miss State in my opinion. Iowa would have given Miss State a better game IMO, not saying they would've won, but they are a better team than Michigan.

**Rogue52** · 01-01-2011, 06:50 PM

Originally Posted by alarson

Instead of playing teams like Utah and Iowa, Northwestern scheduled Vanderbilt, Rice, Illinois State, and Central Michigan? Hard not to make a bowl with a noncon schedule like that. We play that noncon schedule, we make a bowl too.

In Northwestern's defense, they consider Iowa to be a gimme game.

**coachdags** · 01-01-2011, 06:55 PM

With the inception of the BCS, any BCS team could land in Any or All Bowls, take care of things on the field and it could happen.....

**alarson** · 01-01-2011, 06:55 PM

Originally Posted by Rogue52

In Northwestern's defense, they consider Iowa to be a gimme game.

Ha, nice.

Honestly, if it were an option, id like to see the SOS be able to be factored into bowl eligibility, weighed against W-L somehow. Im fine with a 4-8 or 5-7 team making a bowl if their SOS was high enough. Might lead to more interesting nonconference matchups if you get rid of some of the disincentive to schedule tougher games in the nonconference.

**Rhoadhoused** · 01-01-2011, 07:00 PM

Originally Posted by coachdags

All I'm saying, is get there 1st....

You get to play on New Years Day for a reason, it's not Luck of the Draw. The Big Ten bias on this board is unbelievable at times.

News Flash the Big Ten is a good conference, every bit as good as the Big 12 and others

Yes, and obviously that reason is because you dominated an average conference. Those bowls are guaranteed to the Big 10, they are not supposed to be overmatched in every game. Yet, here we are.

**alarson** · 01-01-2011, 07:01 PM

Originally Posted by coachdags

With the inception of the BCS, any BCS team could land in Any or All Bowls, take care of things on the field and it could happen.....

Say what? At most the big 12 can have 4 teams play on or after Jan 1, and thats with Cotton, Ticketcity and 2 BCS spots.

The big ten has a minimum of 5 bowls on jan 1 or after, and 6 with 2 bcs spots.

**Gitwitit** · 01-01-2011, 07:03 PM

Michigan is not a good football team. There is no way they should have been playing Miss St today. Northwestern was a pretty decent team until Persa got hurt on their last play against Iowa. He was the heart and soul of that team and by far the most important player for them. They are just not even close to the same team without him. Mich St was wishy washy all year. They played some good games but they also got their arses handed to them in Iowa City.

Being in the Big Ten enables a lot of teams to get into good bowl games. The downside to that is that a lot of times the teams are forced to play up in competition. The Big Ten will almost always send two teams to the BCS (even if they don't deserve it) therefore pushing every other team up a slot. If the Big Ten didn't have two BCS teams you would have OSU vs Alabama, Mich St vs Miss St, etc.

It is what it is and the Big Ten teams get paid well to play these games. It just doesn't always look good in W's and L's.

P.S. UConn should not be playing OK tonight and it is a joke of a game.

**simply1** · 01-01-2011, 07:04 PM

When this happens it's due to unfavorable match ups... ;)

**coachdags** · 01-01-2011, 07:05 PM

Originally Posted by alarson

Say what? At most the big 12 can have 4 teams play on or after Jan 1, and thats with Cotton, Ticketcity and 2 BCS spots.

The big ten has a minimum of 5 bowls on jan 1 or after, and 6 with 2 bcs spots.

TCU just won the Rose Bowl with no automatic tie in, you figure that out......

**Gitwitit** · 01-01-2011, 07:06 PM

Originally Posted by Rhoadhoused

Yes, and obviously that reason is because you dominated an average conference. Those bowls are guaranteed to the Big 10, they are not supposed to be overmatched in every game. Yet, here we are.

I disagree. Anytime the Big Ten sends two to the BCS, they are going to be forced to play teams ranked higher than them. (Unranked Mich vs 21 Miss St) (unranked IA vs 12 Mizzou)

It happens every year. The only game that the Big Ten was ranked higher was Mich St vs Alabama, but most people know that Alabama is a much better team than their ranking.