PSU donations second highest in school history

**Judoka** · 07-09-2012, 05:27 PM

Originally Posted by MNCyGuy

The whole Penn State thing blows my mind every time I think about it. Not just because of the magnitude of what happened, but because as an institution, there was no reason to cover it up! Even beyond the moral obligation to do the right thing, nobody would have blamed PSU for what Sandusky did if they would have just cut ties the first time accusations came out and made anything they found out about public. If anything, it would have enhanced their public image to deal with it swiftly. It just blows my mind that so many supposedly smart people decided trying to cover it up was the best way to handle that situation.

Because, according to their internal e-mails, they felt that doing nothing was more "humane" to Sandusky. The fact that this allowed him to continue, with their implicit consent, raping young children on a regular basis using their name and facilities to get access to his victims was all just being "humane" to him.

**CycloneErik** · 07-09-2012, 05:35 PM

Degrees don't really mean that someone is smarter. They just stayed longer (or avoided the rest of the world).

**MNCyGuy** · 07-09-2012, 05:37 PM

Originally Posted by CycloneErik

Degrees don't really mean that someone is smarter. They just stayed longer (or avoided the rest of the world).

I'm more and more convinced this means their smarter...

**CycloneErik** · 07-09-2012, 05:38 PM

Originally Posted by MNCyGuy

I'm more and more convinced this means their smarter...

They're.......

I'll admit that the last clause of that sentence might not have helped my case.

**CyCrazy** · 07-09-2012, 05:42 PM

Originally Posted by mj4cy

I think this is just Joe Fan saying "we don't care what you've done...we love PSU football"

Originally Posted by gocubs2118

Thank you. The fact that PSU fans still think Paterno is some kind of Saint tells me everything I need to know about them. They are the biggest dolts in college football.

This is how I feel as well. I will never respect PSU again.

**leroycyclone** · 07-09-2012, 05:52 PM

Originally Posted by Cyclonepride

Keep pumping it in there, people. More money for the victims, who can name their price at this point.

I doubt if the prevailing superiority complex that led to these heinous crimes against children has been eradicated in Happy Valley. This environment has been prevalent for too long, has been promoted too long and has been permitted too long. I still recall Keith Jackson on ABC TV gushing over Paterno and Sandusky, praising the assistant coach during the same times Sandusky was molesting children in showers and his basement. What a disgusting university.

**jdoggivjc** · 07-09-2012, 06:37 PM

Let me be real clear on this, I think what happened at Penn St is outright sick, from Sandusky right up the chain.

I just think it's really hard to judge the fans for wanting to continue and even upping their donations in the wake of what has happened when we cannot relate to their situation. It's real easy to condemn the actions of fans that want to support a program with a lot of tradition when the school we all cheer for doesn't even come close to having the tradition that Penn St has. What happens if Hoiberg coaches ISU to several national championships over the next 30 years, and then, 30 years from now, it comes out that an equally appalling scandal hits ISU? It's real easy to say now that we wouldn't do what Penn St fans are doing, but I would wager a lot of ISU fans standing tall on the soap box right now would probably be doing exactly what Penn St fans are doing right now.

Like I said from the beginning, I find what happened at Penn St appalling. But I would refrain from judging Penn St fans too harshly when none of us really have any clue what we would be doing if we were in their position.

**CyCrazy** · 07-09-2012, 06:48 PM

Originally Posted by jdoggivjc

Let me be real clear on this, I think what happened at Penn St is outright sick, from Sandusky right up the chain.

I just think it's really hard to judge the fans for wanting to continue and even upping their donations in the wake of what has happened when we cannot relate to their situation. It's real easy to condemn the actions of fans that want to support a program with a lot of tradition when the school we all cheer for doesn't even come close to having the tradition that Penn St has. What happens if Hoiberg coaches ISU to several national championships over the next 30 years, and then, 30 years from now, it comes out that an equally appalling scandal hits ISU? It's real easy to say now that we wouldn't do what Penn St fans are doing, but I would wager a lot of ISU fans standing tall on the soap box right now would probably be doing exactly what Penn St fans are doing right now.

Like I said from the beginning, I find what happened at Penn St appalling. But I would refrain from judging Penn St fans too harshly when none of us really have any clue what we would be doing if we were in their position.

Ok as an alum of ISU the name Graham Spanier and "Distinguished Alumni" should never be said again.

**ISUAgronomist** · 07-09-2012, 06:52 PM

Originally Posted by CyCrazy

Ok as an alum of ISU the name Graham Spanier and "Distinguished Alumni" should never be said again.

and revoke the honorary Doctorate he was awarded too.

I know hindsight - 20/20 blah blah but 2004:

ISU President Gregory Geoffroy says, “It is not an exaggeration to state that Graham Spanier may be the most widely respected university president in America today.”

http://www.isualum.org/en/awards/dis...anier_2004.cfm

**CyFan61** · 07-09-2012, 07:00 PM

Originally Posted by ISUAgronomist

and revoke the honorary Doctorate he was awarded too.

I know hindsight - 20/20 blah blah but 2004:

Graham Spanier 2004 - Iowa State University Alumni Association

Iowa State did get rid of his pennant on the walkway of Distinguished Alumni on campus.

**CyCrazy** · 07-09-2012, 07:04 PM

Originally Posted by CyFan61

Iowa State did get rid of his pennant on the walkway of Distinguished Alumni on campus.

I did not know that but good job ISU brass.

**ISUAgronomist** · 07-09-2012, 07:05 PM

Originally Posted by CyFan61

Iowa State did get rid of his pennant on the walkway of Distinguished Alumni on campus.

That's good to hear.

**kberyldial** · 07-09-2012, 08:07 PM

First - it appears aside from football booster donations going up some the majority of the money has zero to do with football. These are largely donations to the university as a whole. Second - PSU didn't need to comment on the increase. It still smells of "see, despite what all of you think we're still just fine here in Happy Valley." PSU and media reports and the like need to go away unless it's to announce the building with the shower in it is being torn down.

**Aclone** · 07-09-2012, 08:15 PM

Originally Posted by CyCrazy

This is how I feel as well. I will never respect PSU again.

I never fail to be amazed by "holier than thou" attitudes. Especially considering where ISU coaches (and assistants) have been. Duh!

Glass houses, people. Sigh.

**gocubs2118** · 07-09-2012, 08:26 PM

Originally Posted by Aclone

I never fail to be amazed by "holier than thou" attitudes. Especially considering where ISU coaches (and assistants) have been. Duh!

Glass houses, people. Sigh.

What? People are talking about the fans, not the coaches.