SEC hopes turn sour for Missery

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-vMfqosdDbY

All I'm going to say is Mizzou got what they wanted...now they have to sleep in the bed they made

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Originally Posted by Cycsk

So what has happened to Missouri? How can they be so tough in the Big 12 and now be so weak in the SEC? I know the SEC answer: "the SEC is a much better conference." However, I just can't understand how Missouri could flop so far so fast.

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Any of the non-traditional powers (KU, MU, ISU, KSU or however you want to define it) are always one or two classes away from falling back to a lousy season(s). All it takes is a recruiting class or two to have too many busts (academics, previously undetected recruiting errors, injuries) and you have start over.

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Originally Posted by Clonefan94

Flying back from Florida, I met a Mizzou alum. I had my ISU hat on and he complimented me on ISU's win at TCU. According to him, no one he knows liked the move. As fans there were too many traditions being lost and he wasn't too confident about Missouri's potential in the SEC. He thought the big money was what drove the move and that Egos and the thought of Big Time Football overtook common sense. He even said he used to go to quite a few games, but basically is giving up now.

Obviously just one mans perspective, but I thought it was an interesting one coming from outside the "Superfan" mentality.

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I have several friends who have always been Mizzou fans (didn't go there) but they don't even care to watch the games anymore. Another Mizzou friend (who is alumni) was all ready to leave and then in August changed his mind. He now says it was the worst decision possible. I know of only one person who likes this move and the only reason he likes it is because he's like us with ISU and support MU no matter what. I agree with people on here who say they will struggle because they are so far north, because we have to deal with that all the time. Hard time getting recruits, underdogs in almost all your games and people forget about you.

Money and prestige. The big dogs at Mizzou always think that they are a big time program and want to be affiliated with a "more prestigious" conference, e.g. Big Ten. During the first alignment, they openly flaunted their desire to go to Big Ten and it backfired on them, as Big Ten actually didn't want them LOL
So the reason becomes: Face Saving. They need to leave Big 12 to save their faces and to show that they are wanted by someone else

We had a 24 y.o. Mizzou grad on staff he was all for the move. I think it was partly generational, he is about 8 years younger than me he doesn't remember when Mizzou was one of the group that is now ISU, KSU, and KU in football. Between the younger kids then a few people with money I think the school made a bad decision. Hey they are the ones that have to lay in their own bed.

He also said it was pretty split between KC mizzou fans wanting to stay in the B12 and StL Mizzou fans wanting to go to the SEC.

I thought it was a horrible move then, and I think it is horrible move now. Especially now that we have a 20 mil + tv deal per year. The money isn't enough to make up for the last rivalries and getting your head pounded in. Plus losing your recruiting pipeline. Look at Nebraska, I believe their latest recruiting class only had 2 TX players in it. Pretty sure their talent level is going to drop.

Oh well B12 ended up stronger for it and we get more money now! Wooohoooo!

Ya they left to save face. Most of my friends that are MU people were not happy about the move. The ones that were happy about it just tried to yell louder than the ones that weren't.

I hope Bama hangs 60 on mizzou.

Maybe they will end up in the MAC.

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Originally Posted by boone7247

We had a 24 y.o. Mizzou grad on staff he was all for the move. I think it was partly generational, he is about 8 years younger than me he doesn't remember when Mizzou was one of the group that is now ISU, KSU, and KU in football. Between the younger kids then a few people with money I think the school made a bad decision. Hey they are the ones that have to lay in their own bed.

He also said it was pretty split between KC mizzou fans wanting to stay in the B12 and StL Mizzou fans wanting to go to the SEC.

I thought it was a horrible move then, and I think it is horrible move now. Especially now that we have a 20 mil + tv deal per year. The money isn't enough to make up for the last rivalries and getting your head pounded in. Plus losing your recruiting pipeline. Look at Nebraska, I believe their latest recruiting class only had 2 TX players in it. Pretty sure their talent level is going to drop.

Oh well B12 ended up stronger for it and we get more money now! Wooohoooo!

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All the teams seem better now in the B12 compared to past years. Money has helped. Mizzou would not have an easy road in the B12 either with a young oline and no qb.

It pains me to stick up for Missery after the shaft they gave the Big 12 last year, but I really think it's too soon to start ringing the death knell. They've played all of 3 SEC games, and even if they don't win a single conference game this year (very plausible), I think it will be a good decade before anyone can tell whether the "SEC experiment" paid off. The whole justification for their move was built upon a long-term strategy...they thought it would bring more revenue, more exposure, better recruits, and better competition. If they get get those things, it's not going to happen overnight, and the dividends won't become evident for a few more seasons.

If I had to put money on it, I'd guess that they'll be regretting their decision in a decade; simply put, they don't have the potential or the capacity to become a marquee program in a conference like the SEC. This is not a case of a school "outgrowing" their conference peers; Missery has a relatively small and lackadaisical fanbase, sub-par facilities, and is not a destination program by any means...and they still were only recently competitive in the Big 12.

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Originally Posted by DistrictCyclone

It pains me to stick up for Missery after the shaft they gave the Big 12 last year, but I really think it's too soon to start ringing the death knell. They've played all of 3 SEC games, and even if they don't win a single conference game this year (very plausible), I think it will be a good decade before anyone can tell whether the "SEC experiment" paid off. The whole justification for their move was built upon a long-term strategy...they thought it would bring more revenue, more exposure, better recruits, and better competition. If they get get those things, it's not going to happen overnight, and the dividends won't become evident for a few more seasons.

If I had to put money on it, I'd guess that they'll be regretting their decision in a decade; simply put, they don't have the potential or the capacity to become a marquee program in a conference like the SEC. This is not a case of a school "outgrowing" their conference peers; Missery has a relatively small and lackadaisical fanbase, sub-par facilities, and is not a destination program by any means...and they still were only recently competitive in the Big 12.

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I think they have academic standards also...it may be tougher to recruit against their brothers.

Ahh, Missouri....Northern hospitality and Southern efficiency. Eff 'em

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Originally Posted by Cycsk

So what has happened to Missouri? How can they be so tough in the Big 12 and now be so weak in the SEC? I know the SEC answer: "the SEC is a much better conference." However, I just can't understand how Missouri could flop so far so fast.

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It's not the SEC, they're just a bad team. They beat an FCS team, barely beat Arizona State, and barely beat UCF. Also, they were 4-4 against current Big XII last year. They can still go .500 in the SEC this year and they're worse than last year.

The push to go SEC came from south of the border in Arkansas: Just google: Kroenke, Walton, Laurie