VT in discussions with SEC

[jdoggivjc]

I'm gonna say I think the NCAA needs to create and maintain conferences; they should not be independent monsters free to sway and break as they will. We are forgetting that although football is the lion's share of AD money, sending gymnastics and wrestling teams to Virginia, Tallahassee, Raleigh, etc. will be more expensive and increased TV money may not pick up the complete tab. Also, who didn't have fun going to Lawrence this weekend? That will never ever happen if we have to travel 600 miles on a regular basis for conference games. Some authority needs to intervene here - hell why even have conferences?

The NCAA doesn't have the power or authority to do so. The whole kicker with the superconferences is the four of them, once formed, were to leave the NCAA and form their own organization, freeing them of the "tyranny" (for a lack of better words) that is the NCAA. The. They'd be able to pay athletes and run college sports more like a professional league. If the NCAA decided to try to regulate conference membership it would only hasten the mass exodus from the NCAA.

[DistrictCyclone]

Anyone see a PAC and Big 12 merger on the horizon?

[BKLYNCyclone]

The whole problem with the B1G hoping ND will come crawling back, is the fact that ND is undefeated right now... Another humble season and they likely would have, but after this year, they will be as arrogant as ever. I'm not an ND fan, but can't argue with the team they put together this year... At the start of the year I'm pretty sure it was the toughest rated schedule, though the B1G sucking brought it down a little. I'll give it to them this year, they are actually walking the walk... I'm still mad at OU for making me have to concede this...

[Wesley]

The Pac has even less reason to expand to the Big 12 might. The Pac completely owns some of the largest, and fastest growing media markets in the country. They absolutely control everything in Mountain and Pacific time zones, and there are a TON of people falling under that. The Big 12 has less presence in major media markets.

For the Pac, any addition basically dilutes that. Especially if the Pac 12 Network keeps ending up on TV in the midwest.

I am still not sure West Coast people watch that much college football....

[cyclonehokiece]

Getting back on topic with this post (and sorry if it is already posted) but the VT AD was taken way out of context.

Clarifying Virginia Tech AD Jim Weaver’s comments about the SEC - Hokies Journal - The Washington Post

[jbhtexas]

does anyone else think this is ruining cfb as we know it?

Yes.

The NCAA doesn't have the power or authority to do so. The whole kicker with the superconferences is the four of them, once formed, were to leave the NCAA and form their own organization, freeing them of the "tyranny" (for a lack of better words) that is the NCAA. The. They'd be able to pay athletes and run college sports more like a professional league. If the NCAA decided to try to regulate conference membership it would only hasten the mass exodus from the NCAA.

A mass exodus would be very risky. If it happened, along would come the Feds (and probably the states too) with the corporate tax hammer, likely with the NFL, NBA, and MLB urging them on. The NCAA is on tenuous grounds regarding its non-profit status as it is.

IMO, the only reason the NCAA still holds its non-profit status is because nobody with big enough legal pockets has filed a challenged with the IRS. Anybody can challenge a non-profit status; it doesn't have to come from the US Congress (although it can).

[Clark]

Yes.



A mass exodus would be very risky. If it happened, along would come the Feds (and probably the states too) with the corporate tax hammer, likely with the NFL and NBA urging them on. The NCAA is on tenuous grounds regarding its non-profit status as it is.

IMO, the only reason the NCAA still holds its non-profit status is because nobody with big enough legal pockets has filed a challenged with the IRS. Anybody can challenge a non-profit status; it doesn't have to come from the US Congress (although it can).

Not hard to show low profits on a tax return. I don't think this would be as big of an issue as some make it out to be. Only the Texas', OSU's, ND's of the world would be affected at all.

[TigerCyJM]

I expected Iowa to be a lot worse than it was in terms of college talent.

It doesn't surprise me at all. There was a post on here a while back about per capita analysis of athletes from states. In terms of the Population of Iowa, we produce a very respectable amount of high-level athletes.

[mikem]

Also **** Jim Delany, and the Big Craphole conference. Now I am done ranting.

He may be the face of it, but fox and espn are pulling the strings on this nonsense.

They are going to eliminate the need for the NCAA to be the governing body of the two main sports. It will be essentially a monopoly for the two networks, and their subsidiaries. That will allow them to set advertising rates, and set a market for what they are going to pay the schools selected.

And I know it has not worked so far, but it would not surprise me to see more LHN type arrangements signed for the truly national programs like o$u, mich, usc, etc. Once they control the content of these schools, they will be able to better market the idea of single school networks to fans and alums nationwide.

As you have seen in Iowa, you can block access to networks, and people will still want them, and what is another 1.50 a month on a 60 dollar cable bill.

[cyclonehokiece]

He may be the face of it, but fox and espn are pulling the strings on this nonsense.

They are going to eliminate the need for the NCAA to be the governing body of the two main sports. It will be essentially a monopoly for the two networks, and their subsidiaries. That will allow them to set advertising rates, and set a market for what they are going to pay the schools selected.

And I know it has not worked so far, but it would not surprise me to see more LHN type arrangements signed for the truly national programs like o$u, mich, usc, etc. Once they control the content of these schools, they will be able to better market the idea of single school networks to fans and alums nationwide.

As you have seen in Iowa, you can block access to networks, and people will still want them, and what is another 1.50 a month on a 60 dollar cable bill.

Which is why a la carte cable would be great. There are so many channels I get (and pay for) that I NEVER watch and would like to dump, but others I don't get and would be willing to pay for. Not that it is coming soon, but maybe it would put an end to this pushing channels down our throat and therefore this whole conference realignment which is really a tv set grab.

And yes, I know a la carte cable is coming no time soon.

[Cydkar]

While I'm indifferent towards superconferences, as long as at the end of the day ISU belongs to one, that's all that matters to me.

Of course that's concern #1 but superconferences where you may play a team every 6 years is beyond annoying and a huge step backward. I could sell my kids for money but I think I'd prefer to keep them the old fashioned way...money out.

[Cydkar]

The whole problem with the B1G hoping ND will come crawling back, is the fact that ND is undefeated right now... Another humble season and they likely would have, but after this year, they will be as arrogant as ever. I'm not an ND fan, but can't argue with the team they put together this year... At the start of the year I'm pretty sure it was the toughest rated schedule, though the B1G sucking brought it down a little. I'll give it to them this year, they are actually walking the walk... I'm still mad at OU for making me have to concede this...

Never mind that silly TD that didn't count for Stanford and the money bag to the Pitt kicker.

[acgclone]

It doesn't surprise me at all. There was a post on here a while back about per capita analysis of athletes from states. In terms of the Population of Iowa, we produce a very respectable amount of high-level athletes.

Yep. The only problem is most of them have historically went to Iowa or out of state

[ISUAgronomist]

Joe Schad ‏@schadjoe
Told ACC Commissioner John Swofford spoke w VT Prez Charles Steger in last 24 hrs. and was assured move to SEC is "non-starter."

[Clark]

Joe Schad ‏@schadjoe
Told ACC Commissioner John Swofford spoke w VT Prez Charles Steger in last 24 hrs. and was assured move to SEC is "non-starter."

Didn't say anything about a move to the Big 12 though.