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But a .500 record in the Big 12 means you're competing for a Big Ten championship this year. 90% of the Big 12 is as good or better than CCG Wisconsin. Fans in Iowa compare the two leagues and records and it's stupid. It's apples to oranges now. There aren't 3-4 easy wins in the Big 12 like there used to be, the league is stacked.Quote:
Originally Posted by pyrocyz
9 of 10 big 12 teams are going bowling....it means nothing.
Actually, with Penn State and Ohio State being on probation and not eligible for post-season, Minnesota will likely move up the BIG bowl ladder and play in a "better" bowl than us.....so, you're dead on - a little perspective goes a long way!
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Originally Posted by kberyldial
Well if we get paired with them we better beat them, amiright?
Is still 6-6. We are a 6-6 team. Yeah but have I looked at the RPI? So now we want to argue whether or not we're the best 6-6 team in the country. We would win the Big 10 now? Baylor would win the Big 10? Kansas would finish middle of the pack? You look silly if not stupid with this stuff. WE ARE 6-6 AND 9TH OUT OF TEN TEAMS IN OUR CONFERENCE! Shut... Up.Quote:
Originally Posted by HFCS
Isn't it funny that 9 out of 10 teams in our conference could win the Big 10Quote:
Originally Posted by kberyldial
... not really, the big 10 sucks this year. Not one of my friends who are hawk , badger or husker fans disagree (first time in my lifetime any have conceded absolute inferiority). We (cyclone fans) always argue the schedule and while usually right we also usually overstate it a tad, this year its hard to overstate it....with OSU in the mix they are certainly better but there top now is an average NU and WI that are comparable to our #3-#9 which in my opinion have demonstrated parity. So why is that silly?Quote:
Originally Posted by kberyldial
The Big 12 will not even approach the Big Ten in basketball.Quote:
Originally Posted by CLONECONES
No, they couldn't.Quote:
Originally Posted by CyFan61
Because we may lose to OSU, Michigan, Wisconsin, Northwestern, Nebraska and Penn State - that could make us 6-6 with wins against Purdue, Iowa and Indiana and 3 non-cons. So you see - I've done what you are trying to argue - come up with a some hypothetical scenario of how we might do in the Big 10. It's silly. Do you want me to agree with you that the Big 12 is better than the Big 10? Okay the Big 12 is better. We're still 6-6.Quote:
Originally Posted by IAStubborn
Hey, it wasnt my post, I just didnt know why you thought it was silly for someone to point out (at least how I read it) how crazy that 2-6 in a really weak B1G gets you to a bowl, sure we are still 6-6, does that mean we are equal to minnesota no and ps that schedule is impossible with division play we would play 4 at most of those and beat Northwestern 8-4 or 9-3. Not sure your point, I think his was that record isn't everything yours seems to be that it is. Well it's something but Kent State is 10-1 and they are not Oklahoma or FSU. So yeah we are 6-6 and and better than many 8-4. Dumbest discussion i think i have ever been in, not sure why i am typing still.Quote:
Originally Posted by kberyldial
Agree. Sorry.Quote:
Originally Posted by IAStubborn
By your logic Iowa State would beat almost half the teams in the NFL.Quote:
Originally Posted by kberyldial
I don't even know how to respond to you at this point. Let's try this, if we beat half the teams in the NFL would we still be .500?Quote:
Originally Posted by HFCS
If Iowa State beat half the NFL teams they wouldn't be this Iowa State team, but since you think record is all that matters and who you play is meaningless, I guess they could hang in the NFL.Quote:
Originally Posted by kberyldial
There are 4-5 easy wins to be had in the Big Ten and an extra non-conf game that can be an easy win. Going 6-6 with Minnesota or Iowa's schedule isn't remotely like going 6-6 with a top 10 schedule.
But go on thinking it's exactly the same to be 6-6 playing in the MAC and 6-6 with a top 10 schedule.