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12-04-2012, 08:33 PM #166
Re: Bielema to Arkansas
 Originally Posted by Tre4ISU Wait until BP is gone or Gundy leaves. OSU was junk before that and they will be after that. They have a ****** fanbase that barely shows up. With all the advantages you mentioned they recruit AT BEST equally with Arkansas. Also, I would say 7 wins getting a coach fired tells me the program's pretty damn good.
Oklahoma vs OSU. Who's the better program. If you say OU, that's fine but realize HS athletes and potential coaches as well as citizens of Oklahoma say the same thing. That's who cares if they are the second program in the state. BP's money will be there long after he is. You think their palace facilities will just crumble to the ground without him?
Regarding their attendance, they just flat out overbuilt their stadium. If you ever watch their games, the stands are full. The lower attendance comes from suites that aren't sold out. Calling OSU's fanbase "******" and saying the barely show up is simply ignorant. They average 59K in a 60K stadium. We would struggle to bring 59K, and we really pat ourselves on the back as great fans. The fact that they have that many fans, in a state the size of Oklahoma, with as dominant as Oklahoma has traditionally been is pretty damn impressive, to be honest.
Again, they have the money, the facilities, and the recruiting geography that Arky does. But they don't get to chant "SEC".
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12-04-2012, 08:41 PM #167
Re: Bielema to Arkansas
Okie St. does a good job, leave them alone
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12-04-2012, 08:50 PM #168
Re: Bielema to Arkansas
 Originally Posted by Al_4_State BP's money will be there long after he is. You think their palace facilities will just crumble to the ground without him?
Regarding their attendance, they just flat out overbuilt their stadium. If you ever watch their games, the stands are full. The lower attendance comes from suites that aren't sold out. Calling OSU's fanbase "******" and saying the barely show up is simply ignorant. They average 59K in a 60K stadium. We would struggle to bring 59K, and we really pat ourselves on the back as great fans. The fact that they have that many fans, in a state the size of Oklahoma, with as dominant as Oklahoma has traditionally been is pretty damn impressive, to be honest.
Again, they have the money, the facilities, and the recruiting geography that Arky does. But they don't get to chant "SEC". And with all that money they are going to put up a football facility roughly equal to ours in cost and Arkansas is going to spend twice as much without the T Boone money. Jerry Jones is worth double T Boone and that's not to mention the other big time donors the school has. If you want to argue OSU, fine but saying they have more money and more access to money is wrong. The new facility Arkansas is building is going to blow OSu out of the water along with many other programs.
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12-04-2012, 08:52 PM #169
Re: Bielema to Arkansas
 Originally Posted by kingcy He is really going there because he wants the Iowa job in a few years, and he knows Iowa wont hire a coach from the same conference. No thanks. I'll hold out hope for Diaco.
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12-04-2012, 09:02 PM #170
Re: Bielema to Arkansas
 Originally Posted by Tre4ISU And with all that money they are going to put up a football facility roughly equal to ours in cost and Arkansas is going to spend twice as much without the T Boone money. Jerry Jones is worth double T Boone and that's not to mention the other big time donors the school has. If you want to argue OSU, fine but saying they have more money and more access to money is wrong. The new facility Arkansas is building is going to blow OSu out of the water along with many other programs. I don't think there is anything within the realm of feasibility that Arkansas can provide in terms of facilities that OSU can't.
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12-04-2012, 09:08 PM #171
Re: Bielema to Arkansas
 Originally Posted by Tre4ISU And with all that money they are going to put up a football facility roughly equal to ours in cost and Arkansas is going to spend twice as much without the T Boone money. Jerry Jones is worth double T Boone and that's not to mention the other big time donors the school has. If you want to argue OSU, fine but saying they have more money and more access to money is wrong. The new facility Arkansas is building is going to blow OSu out of the water along with many other programs. Don't care about the rest of the argument but I'm pretty sure that is completely false.
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12-04-2012, 09:14 PM #172
Re: Bielema to Arkansas
 Originally Posted by gharris Don't care about the rest of the argument but I'm pretty sure that is completely false. TBoone - 1.2B
Jerry Jones - 2.7B
It's false because it's more than double.
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12-04-2012, 09:18 PM #173
Re: Bielema to Arkansas
 Originally Posted by CYphyllis TBoone - 1.2B
Jerry Jones - 2.7B
It's false because it's more than double. I find that both are worth ~ 2 billion.
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12-04-2012, 09:18 PM #174
Re: Bielema to Arkansas
 Originally Posted by gharris Don't care about the rest of the argument but I'm pretty sure that is completely false. 2.25. You happy?
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12-04-2012, 09:22 PM #175
Re: Bielema to Arkansas
 Originally Posted by Al_4_State I don't think there is anything within the realm of feasibility that Arkansas can provide in terms of facilities that OSU can't. And vice versa. I wasn't using money as an argument that Arkansas is better. They are spending much more on their new facilities. Arkansas may have the best football facility in the country when all is said and done. I was using other things and debunking money being an issue. OSU has about a $10 million smaller budget. That may change. Football is different in SEC geographies as far as the attitude towards it.
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12-04-2012, 09:38 PM #176
Re: Bielema to Arkansas
 Originally Posted by kingcy He is really going there because he wants the Iowa job in a few years, and he knows Iowa wont hire a coach from the same conference.
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12-05-2012, 09:22 AM #177
Re: Bielema to Arkansas
 Originally Posted by scyclonekid Okie St. does a good job, leave them alone -
12-05-2012, 10:16 AM #178
Re: Bielema to Arkansas
 Originally Posted by Tre4ISU 2.25. You happy? Eh my bad, I thought T Boones water deals in Texas made him worth a lot more than that. Still don't think it matters that he is worth a little more though because I don't see Jerrah lined up to give half a billion anytime soon.
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12-05-2012, 10:53 AM #179
Re: Bielema to Arkansas
lot of rumors floating around that bielema is outrunning a scandal
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12-05-2012, 10:55 AM #180
Re: Bielema to Arkansas
 Originally Posted by cowgirl836 lot of rumors floating around that bielema is outrunning a scandal After what Arkansas has been through with coaches the last 5 years, I really think they would do thier homework before hiring someone.
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