Bielema to Arkansas

**Tre4ISU** · 12-04-2012, 03:15 PM

Originally Posted by BigLame

Arkansas > Wisconsin
Oklahoma State > Arkansas - settled on Bielema, could not get Gundy
Gundy smart
Bielema not

Your transitive property disagrees with your conclusion. I would call OSU slightly below Wisky and Arky simply because they will always play second fiddle. Arkansas is probably slightly better than Wisconsin because of the geography but it also much more competitive. The alma mater thing must have made up the difference for Gundy. That wasn't there for Bielema. Nor was his brain.

**MNCyGuy** · 12-04-2012, 03:16 PM

Originally Posted by Wesley

Maybe Barry can hire the NIU or Kent State coaches.

NIU coach already took the NC State job, I believe.

**KneeGusto** · 12-04-2012, 03:16 PM

Originally Posted by CyBelieve

I hope some player from ALA, FL or LSU walks up to him in 2017 and says "Hey coach, I've had a good time kicking your *** for the last 4 years!"

Amen. Maybe people in Wisconsin were too polite for his liking.

**MadCy** · 12-04-2012, 03:17 PM

In before the "In before..." posts. Oh wait.

**BigLame** · 12-04-2012, 03:19 PM

Originally Posted by Tre4ISU

Yeah, getting close. Probably 2-3 more spots due to early enrollment and the likelihood of everyone getting to campus two consecutive years being pretty low. I think Lewis ends up here already giving us 25 (Glenn is a grey shirt). You take him, Mills and Bibbs back a year giving us 22. 85 probably won't be limiting with the loss of Pavlenko, Daniels and whoever else departs. Someday 85 will mean something.

Maybe a topic for another thread - but the approach of signing a lot early could hurt most years due to the carousel of coaching changes (or lack of changes) & how it impacts commits changing their minds late in the year. Part of the game/system I suppose.

**Cycsk** · 12-04-2012, 03:21 PM

Originally Posted by boone7247

First SEC >>>>>>>> B1G

However, Wisco >>>>>>> Arkansas.

This is an ego move, of course Belima is a Hok so not surprising.

I can't imagine the money would be that much different.

Wisconsin is the #3 job in the B1G, or am I missing something. OSU, Mich, Wisconsin, PSU (PSU used to be 3, then child molestation happened) the remaining eight besides maybe Nebraska don't carry any real national weight, but Wisconsin is an established program, with decent tradition and excellent backing.

Don't get me wrong I think it is funny, but I just don't get the logic.

Ahh, now it makes sense.

**MNCyGuy** · 12-04-2012, 03:22 PM

Originally Posted by BigLame

Maybe a topic for another thread - but the approach of signing a lot early could hurt most years due to the carousel of coaching changes (or lack of changes) & how it impacts commits changing their minds late in the year. Part of the game/system I suppose.

You can't bank on that. It seems like Rhoads left a couple spots open and has made good on those (Meeks, Campos, maybe Lewis). Would you really want him saving more than 3-5 spots hoping that somebody good decommits and we can beat out the other vultures?

**Tre4ISU** · 12-04-2012, 03:24 PM

Originally Posted by BigLame

Maybe a topic for another thread - but the approach of signing a lot early could hurt most years due to the carousel of coaching changes (or lack of changes) & how it impacts commits changing their minds late in the year. Part of the game/system I suppose.

Yeah, maybe. On the other hand we are sitting on 24/25 guys committed who are pretty quality guys. A lot of these guys were offered early too and our best recruits have committed later. "Best" according to offers and such. I htink the staff really did want the early committing guys. It's not like we were offering and snatching up fillers in October/November to fill spots.

**CycloneWarning** · 12-04-2012, 03:26 PM

Originally Posted by Boxerdaddy

That must be his end game. Being the HC of the Hawks is the most coveted position in all of the NCAA.

Yep. Rick Majerus died of heartbreak.

Too soon?

**cyhiphopp** · 12-04-2012, 03:27 PM

Originally Posted by ianoconnor

If Arkansas is > Wisconsin, how is Bielema not smart?

Arkansas is in a far better recruiting area and a stronger conference.

However, Arkansas rabid fan base is both a blessing and a curse. They are not too smart and will force out any coach if they don't win the SEC in a few years. Hawk boy will learn that real quick.

**ThatllDoCy** · 12-04-2012, 03:29 PM

I don't get this move at all.

**Boxerdaddy** · 12-04-2012, 03:29 PM

Originally Posted by CycloneWarning

Yep. Rick Majerus died of heartbreak.

Too soon?

Oooooo.... Judges?

**BKLYNCyclone** · 12-04-2012, 03:31 PM

Coaching carousel = man soap operas...

**cyhiphopp** · 12-04-2012, 03:32 PM

Originally Posted by CycloneWarning

Yep. Rick Majerus died of heartbreak.

Too soon?

ouch

**Cyclonestate78** · 12-04-2012, 03:35 PM

Originally Posted by BigLame

Arkansas is in the SEC, the epitome of conferences in college football. Any school there is better than the B1G.
Bielema had it easy, though, at Wisky though, or apparently did. Don't think he is cut out for the SEC & where he will start out. Depends upon the coordinators & staff though (see Chizki & Malzahn).

Let's not BS here. Arkansas is not even close to as good of a job as Wisconsin is. Wisconsin has gone to 3 Rose Bowls in a row, has played in several of them previously, contends for conference titles on a regular basis, has a legion of fans, has a bigger athletic budget, plays an easier schedule in an easier conference, etc...

How many BCS bowls has Arkansas gone to? Conference titles in the SEC? etc....