Bielema to Arkansas

**cyhiphopp** · 12-04-2012, 04:02 PM

Originally Posted by Al_4_State

How would you say that Arkansas is a better job than OK State? OK State has the edge on facilities, and with T. Boone's bank roll they can throw a nearly unlimited supply of money at a coach. Plus, they play in Texas every single year, which helps with recruiting. Arky is there once every other year.

I really don't see a single advantage for Arkansas over OK State.

The only possible advantage I could see for Arky would be fanbase. Okie State has trouble filling their expanded stadium if I remember correctly. Arky fans are very committed/should be committed. They also will devour any coach who doesn't win a title.

**cyhiphopp** · 12-04-2012, 04:03 PM

Oh, and Okie Lite will always be #2 in the state.

**boone7247** · 12-04-2012, 04:04 PM

Originally Posted by CyJack13

If you want to reach the pinnacle of coaching and win a national title, you do it in the SEC. That's been proven year after year for the better part of the decade and it's not changing anytime soon. Arkansas has more money, better facilities and better access to fertile recruiting ground.

Only the bolded part of this is true. They don't have more money, Wisconsin has at minimum a $20 million advantage in revenue. Facilities are likely even.

People Wisconsin isn't Iowa! They are a legit power in the B1G. Now does that mean they are going to win a national title soon, no. But they are closer than Arkansas. If for no other reason that the road is easier. Arkansas has yet to win a SEC title, and right now you are butting heads with Alabama and LSU at their absolute peaks. I am sorry but Arkansas isn't going to win a BCS title or a playoff title in the next 5 years, and if Bielema doesn't do that he is going to be gone.

Edit: He would have had a better chance if he want to Auburn, at least there he history on his side. Malzahn will go to a BCS game before Bielema.

**Tre4ISU** · 12-04-2012, 04:05 PM

Originally Posted by Al_4_State

How would you say that Arkansas is a better job than OK State? OK State has the edge on facilities, and with T. Boone's bank roll they can throw a nearly unlimited supply of money at a coach. Plus, they play in Texas every single year, which helps with recruiting. Arky is there once every other year.

I really don't see a single advantage for Arkansas over OK State.

Only BCS program in the state not to mention there isn't Oklahoma. They have been to and won a BCS bowl. They recruit as well, if not better than OSU even with little success recently.

**boone7247** · 12-04-2012, 04:08 PM

Originally Posted by Tre4ISU

Only BCS program in the state not to mention there isn't Oklahoma. They have been to and won a BCS bowl. They recruit as well, if not better than OSU even with little success recently.

Okie St did this during the 2011 season. Beat Stanford in very exciting Fiesta Bowl.

**CyBelieve** · 12-04-2012, 04:10 PM

Originally Posted by Al_4_State

How would you say that Arkansas is a better job than OK State? OK State has the edge on facilities, and with T. Boone's bank roll they can throw a nearly unlimited supply of money at a coach. Plus, they play in Texas every single year, which helps with recruiting. Arky is there once every other year.

I really don't see a single advantage for Arkansas over OK State.

Yea, because Sam Walton, Donald Reynolds and that Tyson Chicken guy are just a trio of slouches. What's the big deal that they pourd $110,000 into their stadium in 2005. Yea, T-Boones 58,000 seat stadium is so much better than the 72,000 seat stadium. Been to them both - both beautiful, but the total sports facilities are incredible there.

SEC sports is a totally different world than anything in the midwest.

**thatguy** · 12-04-2012, 04:10 PM

wasn't Arkansas problem the fact that there coach decided to bang a co-ed? Isn't this more of the same?

**CyJack13** · 12-04-2012, 04:10 PM

Originally Posted by boone7247

Only the bolded part of this is true. They don't have more money, Wisconsin has at minimum a $20 million advantage in revenue. Facilities are likely even.

People Wisconsin isn't Iowa! They are a legit power in the B1G. Now does that mean they are going to win a national title soon, no. But they are closer than Arkansas. If for no other reason that the road is easier. Arkansas has yet to win a SEC title, and right now you are butting heads with Alabama and LSU at their absolute peaks. I am sorry but Arkansas isn't going to win a BCS title or a playoff title in the next 5 years, and if Bielema doesn't do that he is going to be gone.

Edit: He would have had a better chance if he want to Auburn, at least there he history on his side. Malzahn will go to a BCS game before Bielema.

Arkansas has a lot more big money boosters than Wisconsin. They pay their coaches more, from a football program perspective, they have more money.

**CyJack13** · 12-04-2012, 04:11 PM

Originally Posted by thatguy

wasn't Arkansas problem the fact that there coach decided to bang a co-ed? Isn't this more of the same?

As long as he doesn't illegally hire her to work for him, I'm sure Arkansas fans will let Biels bang away if he's winning.

**Tre4ISU** · 12-04-2012, 04:12 PM

Originally Posted by boone7247

Okie St did this during the 2011 season. Beat Stanford in very exciting Fiesta Bowl.

How in the hell did I forget about that? What an idiot. Ok, I would still take the Arkansas job. What happens when Pickens isn't around anymore? They don't have the fanbase that Arkansas has to create revenue.

**Cyclonestate78** · 12-04-2012, 04:13 PM

Originally Posted by CyJack13

Maybe he doesn't. Maybe he realizes Wisconsin fans have become spoiled with three straight Rose Bowl trips and will expect that every year now and with Urban Meyer in the same division, that task has become significantly harder. Here's a chance to leave on a (semi) high note, get a big raise and go to a program that won't expect him to win a conference title every year.

You are severely underestimating just how delusional the fanbase is at Arkansas. Their team went 4-8 this season and this year was supposed to be their "National Championship" year. The fans at Arkansas are borderline insane.

They offered their job to Les Miles... really? LSU is a job that is a million times better then Arkansas and they really thought they were going to get that done? Insanity.

**Tre4ISU** · 12-04-2012, 04:14 PM

Originally Posted by thatguy

wasn't Arkansas problem the fact that there coach decided to bang a co-ed? Isn't this more of the same?

It's the recipe to success. I'm surprised Petrino isn't coming up more. Wisconsin could be a destination for him I suppose.

**Tre4ISU** · 12-04-2012, 04:14 PM

Originally Posted by Cyclonestate78

You are severely underestimating just how delusional the fanbase is at Arkansas. Their team went 4-8 this season and this year was supposed to be their "National Championship" year. The fans at Arkansas are borderline insane.

In their defense, John L SMith was coaching them. With Petrino, that may have actually happened.

**CyBelieve** · 12-04-2012, 04:19 PM

Originally Posted by Tre4ISU

In their defense, John L SMith was coaching them. With Petrino, that may have actually happened.

Very true!

**brokenloginagain** · 12-04-2012, 04:20 PM

I have several UW-madison grads in my office - if there was champagne available it would've already been consumed upon hearing this news. People here are ecstatic Bieliema left. The guy was a jerk, suspect coach, and the feeling is he would've had a seriously hot seat after a 7-5 season and everyone knows its a fluke they're in the rose bowl this year. Most of these diehards can't believe the program didin't implode sooner with him at the helm.

Bielema makes $2.5M per at Wisky. I bet he gets 6 yrs $22M+ at Arkansas.