Iowa vs Purdue

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Originally Posted by CycloneErik

Barring a total collapse, they'll be featured on the Selection Show. It could be a very dramatic show in that sense, if Iowa's bid (or lack thereof) isn't announced until late in the show.

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Define "total collapse". Even if they go 6-5 the rest of the way, which could hardly be considered a collapse, they'll finish below .500 in the conference.

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Originally Posted by DistrictCyclone

Define "total collapse". Even if they go 6-5 the rest of the way, which could hardly be considered a collapse, they'll finish below .500 in the conference.

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Touche. I hadn't kept good track of their record.
With the schedule people are citing, would anything less than 7-4 be a collapse?

Certainly, a loss to Penn State would be a collapse.

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Originally Posted by CycloneErik

Touche. I hadn't kept good track of their record.
With the schedule people are citing, would anything less than 7-4 be a collapse?

Certainly, a loss to Penn State would be a collapse.

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I don't want to write them off completely, because teams have bounced back from bigger deficits before...we did it in 2005 after an 0-5 start to the conference, but it took a lot (9-2 run, win in conference tournament, beating #2 KU on the road).

Iowa's problem is that they're already in a hole with an uphill climb. If they lose to PSU, that hill becomes even steeper than it is already. I don't have any analysis, but I'd bet that a huge majority of teams who are <.300 after playing over a third of their conference slate don't end up making the tournament. Iowa really did get screwed with their front-loaded schedule this year...I almost--almost--feel bad for them.

If you think Iowa is better than ISU at this point in the season you are either a Hawk fan or an idiot, but most likely both as they go hand in hand.

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Originally Posted by DistrictCyclone

I don't want to write them off completely, because teams have bounced back from bigger deficits before...we did it in 2005 after an 0-5 start to the conference, but it took a lot (9-2 run, win in conference tournament, beating #2 KU on the road).

Iowa's problem is that they're already in a hole with an uphill climb. If they lose to PSU, that hill becomes even steeper than it is already. I don't have any analysis, but I'd bet that a huge majority of teams who are <.300 after playing over a third of their conference slate don't end up making the tournament. Iowa really did get screwed with their front-loaded schedule this year...I almost--almost--feel bad for them.

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The problem for Iowa is that they played a very weak non-conference and haven't got any marquee wins in conference play. Yes they have played the toughest part of their schedule, but they haven't won any of those games. As of now, the most impressive wins they have or to Wisconsin and Iowa State. Having a .500 record while beating the bottom of the conference won't get them in the tournament. They need to beat Minnesota or Indiana to get themselves on the right side of the bubble. Especially with that loss to VT looking worse and worse.

Looking at their schedule they could end up 9-9 and out of the tournament because none of those 9 wins came against the top of the conference.

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Originally Posted by isuno1fan

Why is that? It is going exactly as I've been saying. Expect Iowa to start 3-7 and then finish 7-1. They'll get in due to a "strong finish in a great league" even though they won't have beaten anyone other than us and Minny at home.

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Thats not what the committee looks at though. If Iowa doesn't beat Minny or Indiana at least once...they arn't going to the Tourney. Iowa won't get in just beating the bottom feeders of the Big 10. Not gonna happen.

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Originally Posted by NATEizKING

If you think Iowa is better than ISU at this point in the season you are either a Hawk fan or an idiot, but most likely both as they go hand in hand.

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This my friend is "spot on".

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Originally Posted by Clones21

Thats not what the committee looks at though. If Iowa doesn't beat Minny or Indiana at least once...they arn't going to the Tourney. Iowa won't get in just beating the bottom feeders of the Big 10. Not gonna happen.

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I'm glad you posted this. What you say, the opposite happens. So, thanks for relieving a lot of my stress.

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Originally Posted by NATEizKING

If you think Iowa is better than ISU at this point in the season you are either a Hawk fan or an idiot, but most likely both as they go hand in hand.

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Yes, because a team that lost to Texas Tech can assume they're better at this point.

Not sure why everyone is so worked up. We played like crap and lost to Iowa. We played like crap and lost to TT. You don't always beat teams you are better than. Iowa lost BIG to VT, a team that lost by 35 to Colorado State and 27 to BYU.

It's college basketball, sometimes the better team doesn't win and it happens a lot more than it does in college football

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Originally Posted by SplitIdentity

Yes, because a team that lost to Texas Tech can assume they're better at this point.

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I know you are just trolling, but 2 losses against sub 100 RPI teams is worse then 1 loss against a below rpi 200 team

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Originally Posted by Clones85'

Not sure why everyone is so worked up. We played like crap and lost to Iowa. We played like crap and lost to TT. You don't always beat teams you are better than. Iowa lost BIG to VT, a team that lost by 35 to Colorado State and 27 to BYU.

It's college basketball, sometimes the better team doesn't win and it happens a lot more than it does in college football

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So Iowa isn't allowed to play the "played like crap" excuse when it comes to VT, but ISU can use it when it comes to Iowa and Tech? Isn't Tech a team that lost by 30 3+ times this year, and fell at home to McNeese State and Arizona State?

You're better than this. Iowa dominated ISU in almost every statistical category. It's not like Iowa had their best game of the season either.

Thought I would ask where all the hok fans went.
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Originally Posted by SplitIdentity

So Iowa isn't allowed to play the "played like crap" excuse when it comes to VT, but ISU can use it when it comes to Iowa and Tech? Isn't Tech a team that lost by 30 3+ times this year, and fell at home to McNeese State and Arizona State?

You're better than this. Iowa dominated ISU in almost every statistical category. It's not like Iowa had their best game of the season either.

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You misread what I said. Iowa is better than VT as I was getting at and still lost a bad game to them. It happens

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Originally Posted by SplitIdentity

So Iowa isn't allowed to play the "played like crap" excuse when it comes to VT, but ISU can use it when it comes to Iowa and Tech? Isn't Tech a team that lost by 30 3+ times this year, and fell at home to McNeese State and Arizona State?

You're better than this. Iowa dominated ISU in almost every statistical category. It's not like Iowa had their best game of the season either.

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I thought you were supposed to be good at trolling...