Big Televen Exposed (Again)

[Clonefan94]

The SEC is clearly the toughest conference in CFB and has been for some time. The Big 10 has been over-hyped for a long time while playing an overall inferior level of FB for quite a while. People are now starting to realize these truths. The reality is that playing an SEC schedule is defacto a tough schedule and playing a Big 10 schedule is defacto an easy schedule.

Let's look at what transpired with these 2 conferences this post season:

SEC 7-2 Bowl Game record
LSU (SEC#1) beat Ohio St. (B10#1) 38-24
Tennessee (SEC#2) beat Wisconsin (B10#4) 21-17
Georgia (SEC#3) beat Hawaii (WAC#1) 41-10
Auburn (SEC#4) beat Clemson (ACC#4) 23-20
Florida (SEC#5) loss to Michigan (B10#3) 41-35
Arkansas (SEC#6) loss to Missouri (B12#2) 38-7
Miss. St. (SEC#7) beat UCF (USA#1) 10-3
Alabama (SEC#8) beat Colorado (B12#8) 30-24
Kentucky (SEC#9) beat Florida St. (ACC#6) 35-28

Big 10 3-5 Bowl Game Record
Ohio St. (B10#1) loss to LSU (SEC#1) 38-24
Illinois (B10#2) loss to USC (Pac#1) 49-17
Michigan (B10#3) beat Florida (SEC#5) 41-35
Wisconsin (B10#4) loss to Tennessee (SEC#2) 21-17
Penn St. (B10#5) beat Texas A&M (B12#7) 24-17
Purdue (B10#7) beat Central Michigan (MAC#1) 51-48
Michigan St. (B10#8) loss to BC (ACC#2) 24-21
Indiana (B10#9) loss to Okie St. (B12#6) 49-33

I do agree, but, I wish the sportscasters would let the facts speak for themselves. Don't call a 14 point win a blow out. They may have dominated, but, that game was far from a blow out. Also, My problem with the SEC love is that a lot of the talk makes the other conferences seem completely irrelevant. Almost to the point that you don't think other conferences have the right to play for the NC. It should be decided by two SEC teams. I'm just trying to point out that every major conference probably had a viable contender for the NC this year. So we go playoff? Well, it's just going to be more of the same. The SEC will claim they are so much better and tougher that they deserve more teams in there. It's really not a gripe of anyone on this board. It's what I hear on TV and on the radio every day. To some extent, it ruins part of the college football season for me.

Weak schedules are part of the game and it's all cyclical. You never know from year to year how things will pan out. If you set up a couple of years of games with Syracuse 5 years ago, (Well, maybe 7 now) At that time, it may have seemd like a good idea for SOS, not so much now. You play the cards you're dealt and you either win or lose. I just don't believe anyone gets a free pass because they played in a tougher conference. Now, I'm talking major conference football here.

[Cydkar]

It felt like a blowout to me. 14 points in a National Championship game is a blowout in my book considering the teams are supposed to be evenly matched.

[drmwevr08]

It bugs me how they are able to back into these bowl games every year. If no one had to play a conference championship game, then Ohio State would have played in the Rose Bowl and Illinois could have gone to a bowl where they could have actually competed.

Its no wonder the Big 10 is so against a playoff system. Every year they can sit around while other teams are still playing and then just get given two BCS games.

How would this have helped? OS would have likely won a Big 10 title game and still played for number one. Heck, an extra game to shorten the layoff may help the big 10.

[cyclonenum1]

It felt like a blowout to me. 14 points in a National Championship game is a blowout in my book considering the teams are supposed to be evenly matched.

That's because LSU spotted Ohio St. 10 points and then reeled off 31 unanswered. Frankly, after the second quarter the game was really never in question as to the outcome...only the final score was in question.

[SplitIdentity]

The Big XII wasn't exposed - Oklahoma and Stoops were exposed. Ever since he won the title earlier in the decade he's done absolutely nothing. Meanwhile, Texas won a NC in 2006 and KU won their BCS game this year, and although it wasn't a BCS game, Mizzou ran Arkansas into the ground in the Cotton Bowl. It's Oklahoma that's giving the Big XII a bad name, not the entire conference being exposed. And seriously - besides Michigan hanging on to beat Florida this year, what has the Big 10 done in recent memory?

The Big 10 wasn't pathetic in bowl season. But when you consider not being pathetic is your best bowl showing in years, maybe your conf is overrated.

Recent bowl wins for the Big Ten (rankings are conference standings)

#2 Michigan over #3 Florida
#3 Wisconsin over #3 Arkansas
#6 Penn State over. #5 Texas AM
#1 Iowa over #3 LSU
#4 Iowa over #5 Florida
#1 Ohio State over #1 Kansas State
#1 Ohio State over #1 Miami
#3 Wisconsin over #3 Auburn
#5 Purdue over #3 Washington
#7 Iowa over #7 Texas Tech
#2 Michigan over #3 Florida

These are just off the top of my head wins for the Big Ten since 2001 in bowl games. There are more against the ACC and Big East, but I mainly wanted to include the wins over SEC teams.

It's hard to claim that the Big Ten has been pathetic, or that they still are pathetic when they compete and beat other BCS conference teams at about the same rate as any other conference.

[cyclonenum1]

Recent bowl wins for the Big Ten (rankings are conference standings)

#2 Michigan over #3 Florida
#3 Wisconsin over #3 Arkansas
#6 Penn State over. #5 Texas AM
#1 Iowa over #2 LSU
#4 Iowa over #5 Florida
#1 Ohio State over #1 Kansas State
#1 Ohio State over #1 Miami
#3 Wisconsin over #3 Auburn
#5 Purdue over #3 Washington
#7 Iowa over #7 Texas Tech
#2 Michigan over #3 Florida

These are just off the top of my head wins for the Big Ten since 2001 in bowl games. There are more against the ACC and Big East, but I mainly wanted to include the wins over SEC teams.

It's hard to claim that the Big Ten has been pathetic, or that they still are pathetic when they compete and beat other BCS conference teams at about the same rate as any other conference.

I don't have the time or the desire to research your information but I find it somewhat questionable based upon the one item that I do know about.

I assume that with respect to the highlighted item above you are referring to the Capital One Bowl played 1/1/05 following the 2004 season. LSU was not second in the SEC that year...they did not even play in the SEC Championship game that year. They were 9-3 (6-2 in the SEC). And wasn't Michigan #1 (not Iowa) in the Big 10 that year...they did play in the Rose Bowl?

[ISUFan22]

Please take those facts and go home...the Big Ten does not want to hear it!

[SplitIdentity]

I don't have the time or the desire to research your information but I find it somewhat questionable based upon the one item that I do know about.

I assume that with respect to the highlighted item above you are referring to the Capital One Bowl played 1/1/05 following the 2004 season. LSU was not second in the SEC that year...they did not even play in the SEC Championship game that year. They were 9-3 (6-2 in the SEC). And wasn't Michigan #1 (not Iowa) in the Big 10 that year...they did play in the Rose Bowl?

You were right about LSU. However, Iowa was tied for UM for the Big Ten Championship, so they were #1 as well.

The point isn't so much the rankings as it is the Big Ten has done rather well against BCS competition very recently. In fact, I think it would be interesting if somebody could do a comparison for bowl wins vs. conferences for the past decade.

I may do that if I have time.

[jdoggivjc]

We as Cyclone fans are probably never going to hear the end of that stupid friggin' catch. Apparently they're never going to admit that the only real miracle at the end of that game was the BLOWN ******* COVERAGE!!!

[Enginerd]

[quote=SouthernHawk;312793]
The point isn't so much the rankings as it is the Big Ten has done rather well against BCS competition very recently.[quote]

This is why Big Televen fans are so annoying. they just assume they are good. "very recently"? The Big Televen is 0-4 in the BCS losing by an average of almost 22 points over the last two years. The Big Televen hasn't had an overall winning bowl record since 2002.

[LindenCy]

This seems relevant: New Year's college hoops/football resolutions - NCAA Basketball - Yahoo! Sports

See the 5th resolution:

• We, fans of the Big Ten, promise to drink a nice, tall glass of Shut-Up Juice the next time we find ourselves in a debate about the best football conference in America.

And this was just funny:

• The next time I need to go to the bathroom, I, Kansas State basketball player Bill Walker, promise to go at halftime instead of peeing into a towel in front of cameras and thousands of fans on the court.

I didn't hear about that one. I am kind of surprised about that (the not hearing part).