Rose before Beasley in June?

bferin · 04-08-2008, 12:14 AM

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They predict Rose as the #1 pick over Beasley. Rose did have a great tournament (minus tonight) but I still don't think that it would be enough for the first pick.

I guess a DWade and DRose backcourt in Miami would be pretty sweet though.

cyclonedefender · 04-08-2008, 12:15 AM

I doubt it. When does the rule where u have to go to college 2 years to go pro

JonDMiller · 04-08-2008, 12:17 AM

I think it will come down to that team's need. Last year, I think Oden was pretty much the sure fire #1 on most of the Lottery teams boards.

This year, it might not be as black and white.

It's a very tough call, IMO. Last year, I said that i would have taken Durant.

Drive4cy · 04-08-2008, 12:19 AM

If Miami had the first pick I'd probably take Rose, too. Shawn Marion, DWade, and DRose would be a nice combo to restart that franchise again. I don't think you can go wrong drafting Beasley, though.

mwitt · 04-08-2008, 12:39 AM

Well a nucleus of Wade, Marion, and Beasley is really good too. Your superstar guard, great wing player, and your post.

But let's not automatically assume the Heat get the pick. The Celtics and Grizzlies were pretty disappointed last year.

bfross · 04-08-2008, 06:19 AM

Originally Posted by mwitt

Well a nucleus of Wade, Marion, and Beasley is really good too. Your superstar guard, great wing player, and your post.

But let's not automatically assume the Heat get the pick. The Celtics and Grizzlies were pretty disappointed last year.

I hope not, but after the injury Wade suffered last year and tried to play through some injuries this year, I really worry that his best years are behind him. That's a shame because the performance he put on against the Mavs in '06 was a thing of beauty like the performance Kobe put on the Spurs in '01 or Jordan on the Suns. Like a one man wrecking crew. Wade couldn't be stopped.

BryceC · 04-08-2008, 07:18 AM

Originally Posted by bferin

NBAdraft.net

They predict Rose as the #1 pick over Beasley. Rose did have a great tournament (minus tonight) but I still don't think that it would be enough for the first pick.

He didn't have a good game last night? He had 18 points, 6 rebounds and 8 assists. I'd love some bad nights like that out of our players next year.

MNclone · 04-08-2008, 07:29 AM

Originally Posted by BryceC

He didn't have a good game last night? He had 18 points, 6 rebounds and 8 assists. I'd love some bad nights like that out of our players next year.

No, he didn't have a good game last night. There was a stretch where he could do nothing wrong, which boosted his stats. But he was non existant in the 1st half, and in OT when they needed him.

bferin · 04-08-2008, 07:30 AM

Originally Posted by BryceC

He didn't have a good game last night? He had 18 points, 6 rebounds and 8 assists. I'd love some bad nights like that out of our players next year.

If I remember right there was a 16+ minute stretch where he didn't score. And obviously it is not just his scoring, but usually he is so effective because he will drive the lane and pass it out or get to the hoop. He was passing off the ball at the top of the key and not really doing too much.

shildreth · 04-08-2008, 08:04 AM

Originally Posted by bferin

If I remember right there was a 16+ minute stretch where he didn't score. And obviously it is not just his scoring, but usually he is so effective because he will drive the lane and pass it out or get to the hoop. He was passing off the ball at the top of the key and not really doing too much.

That was mainly attributed to Kansas double teaming him as soon as he crossed midcourt. They forced him to find somebody else. What he was doing was taking the 2 defenders on which should have left a teammate open but Kansas recovered well.

No, he didn't have a good game last night. There was a stretch where he could do nothing wrong, which boosted his stats. But he was non existant in the 1st half, and in OT when they needed him.

Dorsey fouling out hurt him in OT. No inside presence.

CyTom · 04-08-2008, 08:17 AM

Had he made his free throws there wouldn't have been overtime. Or if he had foulded Collins there wouldn't have been overtime. Yeah, bad game by him.

bferin · 04-08-2008, 08:19 AM

Originally Posted by shildreth

That was mainly attributed to Kansas double teaming him as soon as he crossed midcourt. They forced him to find somebody else. What he was doing was taking the 2 defenders on which should have left a teammate open but Kansas recovered well.

That would be why I said he did not have a good game last night.

travman23 · 04-08-2008, 08:38 AM

I like Rose but Beasley is much more pro ready at this point I think. Point guard is probably the toughest position for a rookie to learn and make an immediate impact. Just look at Mike Conley from last season. Rose is probably better than him but Conley had his struggles, even Deron Williams did in his rookie year.

Steve · 04-08-2008, 09:34 AM

Originally Posted by CyTom

Had he made his free throws there wouldn't have been overtime. Or if he had foulded Collins there wouldn't have been overtime. Yeah, bad game by him.

Self had more to do with going to OT than anyone else. KU had the game in full control until Self made the bonehead decision to switch to the box and one. Memphis started knocking down open 3's and went on a run to take the lead. KU went back to their normal D and was able to claw their way back to OT with the help of the missed FT's.

photomuse · 04-08-2008, 09:44 AM

Originally Posted by shildreth

That was mainly attributed to Kansas double teaming him as soon as he crossed midcourt. They forced him to find somebody else. What he was doing was taking the 2 defenders on which should have left a teammate open but Kansas recovered well.

Dorsey fouling out hurt him in OT. No inside presence.

Kansas didn't double him, the had the big guys cut him of on picks. Rose would have gone 10 points max on the night if Kansas hadn't stupidly switched to the zone (box and 1). As soon as they did that Rose went off and got is confidence back. Bill self didn't deserve this title.