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08-15-2008, 02:19 PM
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#16 | | Starter
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Originally Posted by CycloneErik  Would they make a bowl game? Seems like there's a speed difference, or difference in general athleticism, that the SEC schools exploit over and over and over and over and over and over and over, well, that's enough. I really disagree with the whole "speed" debate...OSU has just as much speed as anyone. The reason they got beat by LSU is they got beat in the trenches. They also made some really dumb penalties such as the roughing the kicker, and I will hand it to LSU's offensive coordinator...he did a very nice job of scheming. But seriously, they didn't get beat because of a lack of speed. Take a look at the year before....do you really think that Tedd Ginn and Santonio Holmes are slow in comparison to anybody? I think not.
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08-15-2008, 02:21 PM
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#17 | | All-Star
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Originally Posted by ISUFan22 These "if X school was in Y conference" debates get old. Fact is, no one knows. For all we know, Boise State would have dominated the Big 12 a few years ago - when they beat OU.
I'm hoping for a USC-Mizzu national title (pending ISU doesn't make it  ). Oh, yes I do know that OSU wouldn't have the record they do year in and year out if they were in the SEC.
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08-15-2008, 02:26 PM
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#18 | | Starter
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Originally Posted by pulse Oh, yes I do know that OSU wouldn't have the record they do year in and year out if they were in the SEC. If OSU was in the SEC they would be unbeatable at home because all those southern teams would be freezing there @$$es off playing in Columbus. I would absolutely love to see an SEC team pay a visit to Columbus in November and see them experience playing in the cold. Hey, they get all there bowl games basically as home games anyways, so its only fair.
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08-15-2008, 02:28 PM
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#19 | | Speechless
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Originally Posted by pulse Oh, yes I do know that OSU wouldn't have the record they do year in and year out if they were in the SEC. Sorry, ya don't know that. You may believe it and it quite likely to be true, but it's far from a known.
Unless, of course, you swapped Vandy and OSU around on the PS3 or Xbox - than ran it through game simulator...
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08-15-2008, 02:28 PM
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#20 | | Addict
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Originally Posted by Ficklone02 If OSU was in the SEC they would be unbeatable at home because all those southern teams would be freezing there @$$es off playing in Columbus. I would absolutely love to see an SEC team pay a visit to Columbus in November and see them experience playing in the cold. Hey, they get all there bowl games basically as home games anyways, so its only fair. Lexington isn't THAT much further south than Columbus - teams have done well playing at Kentucky for years...
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08-15-2008, 02:30 PM
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#21 | | Bench Warmer
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tOSU is probably in the National Title game barring major injuries with or without a loss to USC. That being said, I think they beat USC to leave no doubt... and I hate the Buckeyes.  | | | |
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08-15-2008, 02:33 PM
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#22 | | Speechless
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Originally Posted by jdoggivjc Lexington isn't THAT much further south than Columbus - teams have done well playing at Kentucky for years... Right.
There isn't a ton of college football played in completely frigid weather. It's not like the NFL where games are going on in December (outside of CFB conference title games, played no farther north than KC) and January.
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08-15-2008, 02:36 PM
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#23 | | All-Star
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Originally Posted by ISUFan22 Sorry, ya don't know that. You may believe it and it quite likely to be true, but it's far from a known.
Unless, of course, you swapped Vandy and OSU around on the PS3 or Xbox - than ran it through game simulator... Hey the Tea Leaves and Ouija board are never wrong.  | | | |
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08-15-2008, 02:37 PM
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#24 | | Starter
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Originally Posted by jdoggivjc Lexington isn't THAT much further south than Columbus - teams have done well playing at Kentucky for years... I think there's a different level of cold in Columbus than Lexington.....I also think UK contributed quite a bit to that success.
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08-15-2008, 02:39 PM
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#25 | | Walk On
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This is a ridiculous debate, fueled by negativity and a dash of envy. OSU is a powerful team, no question. You can't hypothetically put them in another conference and expect to be able to predict what would happen "beyond any reason of doubt" as a lot of people like to do.
I will be rooting for the Buckeyes against USC, and I feel they have a great chance to run the tables with almost the entire team returning.
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08-15-2008, 02:42 PM
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#26 | | Speechless
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Originally Posted by pulse Hey the Tea Leaves and Ouija board are never wrong. Oh...well you didn't mention you had THAT kind of insight. This changes everything!
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08-15-2008, 02:42 PM
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#27 | | Dr. Evil
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Originally Posted by Jarrods79 I will be rooting for the Buckeyes against USC, and I feel they have a great chance to run the tables with almost the entire team returning. It's too bad that they both can't lose the game.
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08-15-2008, 02:44 PM
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#28 | | Rookie
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You don't have to worry about Ohio State playing against Georgia in the Nat'l Title game because Georgia will not be there.
No way will a proven choker like Georgia go through the SEC unscathed.
Ohio State (other than USC) has a super-soft schedule and I would be surprised if they are not playing in the Nat'l Title game for the 3rd year in a row.
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08-15-2008, 02:47 PM
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#29 | | Walk On
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Originally Posted by ketchupnmustard You don't have to worry about Ohio State playing against Georgia in the Nat'l Title game because Georgia will not be there.
No way will a proven choker like Georgia go through the SEC unscathed.
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08-15-2008, 02:48 PM
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#30 | | Hall-Of-Famer
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Originally Posted by Ficklone02 I really disagree with the whole "speed" debate...OSU has just as much speed as anyone. The reason they got beat by LSU is they got beat in the trenches. They also made some really dumb penalties such as the roughing the kicker, and I will hand it to LSU's offensive coordinator...he did a very nice job of scheming. But seriously, they didn't get beat because of a lack of speed. Take a look at the year before....do you really think that Tedd Ginn and Santonio Holmes are slow in comparison to anybody? I think not. Those two guys were fast. I don't remember how fast their running backs were or weren't, but I would certainly give you the trenches. They don't do so well there against the SEC teams.
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