Deace & Miller, you don't get it OSU over Iowa.

**JJ4ISU** · 11-20-2009, 09:58 AM

Okie State has a similar fanbase to Iowa State. They have less than their rival Oklahoma, but they have diehards that will travel well. For a BCS game, they will turn out.

**Billups06** · 11-20-2009, 10:00 AM

Not to mention Boone Pickens will probably spend the equivalent to 10,000 fans where ever they go...

**clone** · 11-20-2009, 10:05 AM

Originally Posted by clones26

Really!? Maybe if you listened you would know that Deace talks Cyclones (& Michigan) to balance it out. CW was hosting earlier this week with JM & will again next week.

CW is going to be on Mon-Wed next week as well.

ml

st8 · 11-20-2009, 10:14 AM

how sad is it that this discussion is about what team will travel better or why the fiesta bowl will make a political pick in order to secure their future? It disgusts me that the question of "which team is better and most deserving" has no relevance in a discussion about BCS projections. I hate this system, It blows, we need some playoff format

**Freebird** · 11-20-2009, 10:18 AM

Originally Posted by st8

how sad is it that this discussion is about what team will travel better or why the fiesta bowl will make a political pick in order to secure their future? It disgusts me that the question of "which team is better and most deserving" has no relevance in a discussion about BCS projections. I hate this system, It blows, we need some playoff format

That isn't a BCS issue. This has been the system as long as there have been bowl games. Unless there is a specific tie-in, bowls have always been able to choose who they want for the most part. Not saying it is right, just the way it is. It used to be worse back in the day when bowls would invite teams even before the regular season ended. (70's even into the 80's)

**SplitIdentity** · 11-20-2009, 10:19 AM

Originally Posted by st8

how sad is it that this discussion is about what team will travel better or why the fiesta bowl will make a political pick in order to secure their future? It disgusts me that the question of "which team is better and most deserving" has no relevance in a discussion about BCS projections. I hate this system, It blows, we need some playoff format

Alright, how's this....

Iowa should go over Okie State, because the Hawks are a better team.

**Cyrocks** · 11-20-2009, 10:30 AM

Originally Posted by SplitIdentity

Alright, how's this....

Iowa should go over Okie State, because the Hawks are a better team.

Oh yeah, one good kick away from losing to (what was formerly known as Div 1AA) team makes Iowa soooo much better than Okie State.

And coming back to win against 1-6 Indiana, well, that might just clinch it right there.

And that loss to Northwestern? Northwestern is a better team than that rated Houston squad.

Same way about that Ohio State loss. OSU is MUCH better than Texas.

**isufbcurt** · 11-20-2009, 10:31 AM

Originally Posted by SplitIdentity

Alright, how's this....

Iowa should go over Okie State, because the Hawks are a better team.

Thank you!!! This is the funniest joke I have EVER read in my life.

**tman24** · 11-20-2009, 10:32 AM

Originally Posted by Billups06

This is the one thing I don't get about bowl games. Why don't they just let the best teams play? Why even rank Boise St in the top 10 in bcs if they're not even going to make it to a bcs game?....it all comes down to money I guess, but I'd be fairly mad if my team was better than another team selected to play in the BCS just because they have better fans??? Kind of stupid, and takes away from the actual game.

Dan Patrick is that you?

**MontyBurns** · 11-20-2009, 10:34 AM

Originally Posted by JJ4ISU

A rep from the Fiesta basically confirmed what you are saying (in a DM Register article this week). If Okie State beats OU, they will travel well to Phoenix and create just as much, if not more, national interest to TV viewers than Penn State or Iowa. At least they play an exciting brand of football, if nothing else.

The Fiesta Bowl officials have been consistent in saying all along that they want a Big 12 team if they can get one. Plus Oklahoma State is ranked above both Iowa & Penn State in the BCS standings, and will stay there if they beat Oklahoma. I don't know why Miller & his band of merry followers can't face that reality, but it will just make the meltdown more fun if Oklahoma State beats Oklahoma and gets a Fiesta Bowl invite.

Lesson learned: If you want a BCS bowl invite, don't lose to Northwestern at home.

**brianhos** · 11-20-2009, 10:36 AM

Boise St goes before Iowa.

**spyclone** · 11-20-2009, 10:37 AM

why do you care?

**chuckd4735** · 11-20-2009, 10:38 AM

Originally Posted by SplitIdentity

Alright, how's this....

Iowa should go over Okie State, because the Hawks are a better team.

Eh. I don't think you can say that until you see the two play. They are about equals, and I am not sure which I would give the advantage too. If the game was played at Kinnick I like the Hawks, anywhere else I'm not too sure. Would love to see this match up in the Fiesta Bowl!

**TarHeelHawk** · 11-20-2009, 10:38 AM

In the end, it won't matter. Iowa isn't competing against Ok. State for a BCS bid; they're competing against Penn State. The Big 10 is going to get two teams in (unless both Iowa and Penn State lose tomorrow) regardless of what Oklahoma State does. It's a matter of Penn State v. Iowa, not Iowa v. Ok. State.

**Clonefan32** · 11-20-2009, 10:38 AM

Originally Posted by SplitIdentity

Alright, how's this....

Iowa should go over Okie State, because the Hawks are a better team.

I think they are about as evenly matched as two teams can be. Both teams have seen success, but have benefited from a weak conference. It would actually be kind of fun to see these two teams play...but I imagine the decision will come down to politics since they are very even teams, and who knows what that will lead to.