Deace & Miller, you don't get it OSU over Iowa.

**TarHeelHawk** · 11-20-2009, 10:38 AM

Originally Posted by chuckd4735

Eh. I don't think you can say that until you see the two play. They are about equals, and I am not sure which I would give the advantage too. If the game was played at Kinnick I like the Hawks, anywhere else I'm not too sure. Would love to see this match up in the Fiesta Bowl!

Judging by how the Hawks have played at home v. how they've played on the road this year, you could probably flip that.

**clonecard** · 11-20-2009, 10:39 AM

And how will a Gopher win change things?

**SC Cy** · 11-20-2009, 10:41 AM

Originally Posted by clonecard

And how will a Gopher win change things?

For the better.

**hurdleisu24** · 11-20-2009, 10:43 AM

Originally Posted by TarHeelHawk

In the end, it won't matter. Iowa isn't competing against Ok. State for a BCS bid; they're competing against Penn State. The Big 10 is going to get two teams in (unless both Iowa and Penn State lose tomorrow) regardless of what Oklahoma State does. It's a matter of Penn State v. Iowa, not Iowa v. Ok. State.

Tar heel why do you say that do you think there is no way that the BCS takes 2 unbeaten non BCS schools or that the Big 10 will just be picked ahead of the Big 12 school?

**hurdleisu24** · 11-20-2009, 10:44 AM

Can I just get Boise to lose to Nevada next week so then Okie St. and Iowa can play in the Fiesta?

**Cyrocks** · 11-20-2009, 10:44 AM

Originally Posted by hurdleisu24

Tar heel why do you say that do you think there is no way that the BCS takes 2 unbeaten non BCS schools or that the Big 10 will just be picked ahead of the Big 12 school?

Because he/she is.....

TARHEELHAWK

**Clonegrad07** · 11-20-2009, 10:46 AM

Iowa does travel well... I have to say... unfortunately...

That being said, I hope the Fiesta Bowl leaves them for some other bowl and takes OSU or Boise St. or any other team besides Big 10 school....

**chuckd4735** · 11-20-2009, 10:49 AM

Originally Posted by hurdleisu24

Can I just get Boise to lose to Nevada next week so then Okie St. and Iowa can play in the Fiesta?

I seriously hope this happens! Would be awesome to get ISU in the Insight and have 2 Big12/Big 10 matchups within 5 days of each other down there!

**wonkadog** · 11-20-2009, 10:50 AM

How in the world can some of you be "rooting" for Iowa to make the Fiesta Bowl? I could care less who else is playing in town if we were there for a bowl. Screw Iowa.

**Clark** · 11-20-2009, 10:52 AM

Originally Posted by cycloneworld

Also, since the BCS began the Fiesta Bowl has selected a team from the Big 12 6 times since 1999. 2 other times the game was the National Championship. That leaves only 3 times (2001, 2005, 2006) has the Fiesta not selected someone from the Big 12.

And of those 3 times, twice they selected Notre Dame (which is a BCS no-brainer).

So in 11 years, the Fiesta has only once selected a team non-Big 12 team not named Notre Dame. And I believe in that year, Texas was picked before they had the chance to pick them.

These stats are a bit misleading aren't they? They include the automatic picks the Big 12 receives. As far as I can tell there has only been one time a Big 12 team has been picked as an at-large team and that was Texas last year.

**hawkadoodledoo** · 11-20-2009, 10:54 AM

Okie States best win is over #37 ranked Texas Tech. What makes them deserving? The Fiesta Bowl is only entitled to take the big 12 champ if they aren't in the Championship, and in the years where they weren't forced to take the big 12 champion, they have taken a different team all 3 of those years. They've had 9 years since the bcs inception, 6 of those they had to take the big 12 champion, the other 3, they chose different. Iowa travels better, and the bowl reps aren't saying they are taking a big 12 team, so stop making stuff up. If both win out, Iowa goes, sorry it upsets you guys.

**isufbcurt** · 11-20-2009, 10:55 AM

Originally Posted by wonkadog

How in the world can some of you be "rooting" for Iowa to make the Fiesta Bowl? I could care less who else is playing in town if we were there for a bowl. Screw Iowa.

Amen! I'd rather not have them down there with us.

**cybsball20** · 11-20-2009, 10:57 AM

I really don't care one way or the other as long as the best teams get into the BCS bowls, including Boise and TCU.... That being said, if Iowa goes to the Fiesta and Iowa State goes to the Insight, I will be going to both games...

**CloneIce** · 11-20-2009, 11:09 AM

Originally Posted by hawkadoodledoo

Okie States best win is over #37 ranked Texas Tech. What makes them deserving? The Fiesta Bowl is only entitled to take the big 12 champ if they aren't in the Championship, and in the years where they weren't forced to take the big 12 champion, they have taken a different team all 3 of those years. They've had 9 years since the bcs inception, 6 of those they had to take the big 12 champion, the other 3, they chose different. Iowa travels better, and the bowl reps aren't saying they are taking a big 12 team, so stop making stuff up. If both win out, Iowa goes, sorry it upsets you guys.

Its amazing to me how some people are able to ignore the relevant facts when they don't fit their viewpoint (i.e., the Fiesta Bowl's relationship to the Big 12, and every damn thing the Fiesta Bowl officials have said on the record). This is no different than the fact that the Rose Bowl would pick Iowa over OSU if it was in this position because of its relationship with the Big 10.