Charlie Weis Offically Out...

**Tornado man** · 11-30-2009, 03:24 PM

Originally Posted by jbhtexas

Stoops' success at OU is due largely in part to his ability to attract top athletes from Texas. I believe this is largely due to Stoops himself and his staff, and not OU the school, because it wasn't happening before Stoops got to OU.

No, John Blake recruited tremendous, highly-ranked classes to OU prior to Stoops; he just couldn't coach them. The cupboard was stocked full for Bobby, and he even said that was a factor in his decision to come there.

**CYKOFAN** · 11-30-2009, 03:27 PM

Kelly is taking a lot of 2 star athletes and winning big in the Big East, a conference that is 12-4 in bowl games the last 3 years including a win over a highly ranked OU team in a BCS bowl. I think he would find a way to win with the athletes he would pull in at OU with no problem.

**The_Architect** · 11-30-2009, 03:28 PM

Stoops would be a fool to take that job. How much sense does it make to leave the #3 or #4 all time prestige program for the #1. OU has major recruiting advantages over Notre Dame being so close to Texas. I know Notre Dame has recruiting advantages too but OU's ability to take the top talent away from UT is keeping them dominant.

**cybsball20** · 11-30-2009, 03:29 PM

Originally Posted by CYKOFAN

Kelly is taking a lot of 2 star athletes and winning big in the Big East, a conference that is 12-4 in bowl games the last 3 years including a win over a highly ranked OU team in a BCS bowl. I think he would find a way to win with the athletes he would pull in at OU with no problem.

Alot of those guys are only 2 star because of character issues and academic issues. I have heard he has a reputation for bringing in thugs and not necessarily good at keeping them out of trouble either.

**cybsball20** · 11-30-2009, 03:30 PM

Originally Posted by The_Architect

Stoops would be a fool to take that job. How much sense does it make to leave the #3 or #4 all time prestige program for the #1. OU has major recruiting advantages over Notre Dame being so close to Texas. I know Notre Dame has recruiting advantages too but OU's ability to take the top talent away from UT is keeping them dominant.

He would leave because he has lost momentum and wants to get out on his own terms before he is forced out. IF he went to Notre Dame he could probably dominate the state of Ohio in recruiting. OSU would probably see a big drop off as a result.

**Tornado man** · 11-30-2009, 03:31 PM

Originally Posted by cybsball20

Alot of those guys are only 2 star because of character issues and academic issues. I have heard he has a reputation for bringing in thugs and not necessarily good at keeping them out of trouble either.

He has also had to clean up behavior problems from the Dantonio era. Speaking of which, Michigan State football players seem to have fights on campus every weekend, so I guess this issue is following Dantonio around...

**06Panther** · 11-30-2009, 03:32 PM

Originally Posted by cybsball20

Alot of those guys are only 2 star because of character issues and academic issues. I have heard he has a reputation for bringing in thugs and not necessarily good at keeping them out of trouble either.

Sounds like a good fit for a big time program if you ask me.

**cybsball20** · 11-30-2009, 03:32 PM

Originally Posted by Tornado man

He has also had to clean up behavior problems from the Dantonio era. Speaking of which, Michigan State football players seem to have fights on campus every weekend, so I guess this issue is following Dantonio around...

and Kelly's players at his last stop killed a guy, so....

**ISUFan22** · 11-30-2009, 03:33 PM

Originally Posted by cybsball20

Alot of those guys are only 2 star because of character issues and academic issues. I have heard he has a reputation for bringing in thugs and not necessarily good at keeping them out of trouble either.

OU has no problems with this. And it's not a knock on them, just fact. Historically, they're fine with taking marginal character guys.

**coachdags** · 11-30-2009, 03:33 PM

Pete Carroll....?

**ISUFan22** · 11-30-2009, 03:35 PM

Originally Posted by coachdags

Pete Carroll....?

Well they did get "kicked around" this year, but I'd be shocked. IMO, Pete retires at USC or goes to the NFL. So far, he's told some attractive NFL opportunities "no thanks"...so methinks he retires in the land of the Trojans.

**Tornado man** · 11-30-2009, 03:36 PM

Originally Posted by cybsball20

and Kelly's players at his last stop killed a guy, so....

He's bringing in higher-character guys to Cincy than Dantonio ever did - or is doing at East Lansing.

**tamjam** · 11-30-2009, 03:36 PM

Why hasn't Ferentz's name came up for the ND job? If you were an ND guy, wouldn't he be at the top of your list?

**HILLCYD** · 11-30-2009, 03:58 PM

Originally Posted by tamjam

Why hasn't Ferentz's name came up for the ND job? If you were an ND guy, wouldn't he be at the top of your list?

I'm sorry, but this is freakin hilarious....

**ISUFan22** · 11-30-2009, 04:00 PM

Originally Posted by HILLCYD

I'm sorry, but this is freakin hilarious....

Again, you have to wonder if this is as good as it gets for KF. From the looks of it, there could very well be some great jobs open up if the carousel gets started.

Or, he holds out hope for "another crack" at the potential Michigan job should they miss a bowl in 2010.