Doug to Creighton?

**clonedude** · 04-26-2010, 07:39 PM

Originally Posted by rworkman83

I believe that is a "transfer" rule. He is not transferring to Creighton, he is just simply being released from a LOI.

That is not the case in the Ben Brust situation at Iowa. Iowa released him from his LOI, but now Brust cannot go anywhere else in the Big 10.

I thought Brust wasn't considered a "transfer" either because he was no longer signed with Iowa, but I guess that was not the case.

**Clones85'** · 04-26-2010, 07:39 PM

Originally Posted by clonedude

That is not the case in the Ben Brust situation at Iowa. Iowa released him from his LOI, but now Brust cannot go anywhere else in the Big 10.

I thought Brust wasn't considered a "transfer" either because he was no longer signed with Iowa, but I guess that was not the case.

Iowa is making sure the Big 10 enforces that rule. UNI will not. There is the difference

**BCPanther** · 04-26-2010, 07:41 PM

Its 100% up to MVC commissioner Doug Elgin.

The schools have very little say. I am really hoping he stands behind the rule and Doug only gets two years of eligibility from 2012-2014

**wartknight** · 04-26-2010, 07:42 PM

I believe a scholarship is a scholarship and counts against the limit no matter where it comes from within the university. Not sure on that rule but I vaguely remember reading something about that when Ferentz's boys played for him.
I think it was something that changed in the last 10 years or so, ending the practice of having student-athletes on "academic" scholarships so it didn't count against the schollie limit.
Not certain on this at all, just seems like I read something at one time about it.

**Clones85'** · 04-26-2010, 07:44 PM

Originally Posted by BCPanther

Its 100% up to MVC commissioner Doug Elgin.

The schools have very little say. I am really hoping he stands behind the rule and Doug only gets two years of eligibility from 2012-2014

Chance of that happening? Zero percent

Not when UNI has no issues with it and it is father/son.

**Ames** · 04-26-2010, 07:46 PM

Originally Posted by Clones85'

So back to the original question. Does he get free education? Is Greg going to get 14 players for the price of 13?

Well considering UNI AD made a point to say Doug hasn't been released I wouldn't be so fast to move on.

**CyCy** · 04-26-2010, 07:49 PM

There is an NCAA rule that states if an athlete is getting any aid from the University, they must be counted as one of the allowable scholarships for that sport. A school can't put a player on an academic scholarship, music scholarship, etc. and thereby have 14 basketball players. I think that would rule out the 14th player scenario for this.

I think a walk-on player might be able to accept an academic scholarship only if it has no connection to the school.

**hawkeyeguy85** · 04-26-2010, 07:49 PM

Originally Posted by Clones85'

Iowa is making sure the Big 10 enforces that rule. UNI will not. There is the difference

No.

Iowa signed off on the waiver to give Brust full release. Big 10 still denied the waiver to avoid setting a precedent that could allow conference teams to poach other teams recruits.

Big Ten denies waiver for ex-Iowa recruit | GazetteOnline.com

Big Ten denies Brust waiver

I am assuming that it will be a similar case here where UNI won't have the final say. The MVC will.

**Clones85'** · 04-26-2010, 07:51 PM

Originally Posted by CyCy

There is an NCAA rule that states if an athlete is getting any aid from the University, they must be counted as one of the allowable scholarships for that sport. A school can't put a player on an academic scholarship, music scholarship, etc. and thereby have 14 basketball players. I think that would rule out the 14th player scenario for this.

I think a walk-on player might be able to accept an academic scholarship only if it has no connection to the school.

Little lick was a walk on player for Iowa. Why couldn't Doug be a walk on player for Creighton?

Doug wouldn't be on scholarship. His tuition would just be waved since his parent works for the University.....just thinking out loud here

**Clones85'** · 04-26-2010, 07:52 PM

Originally Posted by hawkeyeguy85

No.

Iowa signed off on the waiver to give Brust full release. Big 10 still denied the waiver to avoid setting a precedent that could allow conference teams to poach other teams recruits.

Big Ten denies waiver for ex-Iowa recruit | GazetteOnline.com

Big Ten denies Brust waiver

I am assuming that it will be a similar case here where UNI won't have the final say. The MVC will.

My apologies.

**vmbplayer** · 04-26-2010, 07:54 PM

Channel 8 reported he would not have to sit out at all.

**Clones85'** · 04-26-2010, 07:54 PM

Originally Posted by vmbplayer

Channel 8 reported he would not have to sit out at all.

I figured. No way he goes to Creighton if he had to sit out.

**majorcyfan** · 04-26-2010, 07:58 PM

This is OK by me, but the question then comes to mind, WHY COULDN'T HE HAVE DONE SO HERE AT ISU? Why do both McDermott's have to go to Creighton to do so? Greg made a point of saying he Will now get to coach his son. Why not here? Quote from his press conference was this: " But at the end of the day what really tipped the scales for me was the chance to coach my son Doug," said McDermott." Seems like a lame excuse for getting away from ISU, if the same results could have accomplished here.

Perhaps his knowing he might be fired before Doug would be a graduating senior might additionally explain going to Creighton.

Did we miss something in his explanation that would explain his rational for only wanting to coach his son at Creighton?