Big Ten in this year's draft...unless my math is wrong

**maintain242001** · 06-25-2010, 11:44 AM

Originally Posted by ChrisMWilliams

You are right. That would have made a difference. But that doesn't change my original point.

What about the eye test? Be honest. Watching the Big 12 last year vs. the Big Ten...which league do you think was better. Forget the draft stats. Just the eye test. What is your honest opinion?

Apples to oranges again...different leagues, different styles. UNI pwned your best team last year so UNI was the better team all year long correct..and they would have won the Big 12 right...I mean that stats say UNI was better than Kansas last year?

**maintain242001** · 06-25-2010, 11:45 AM

Originally Posted by ChrisMWilliams

I had no idea that we had so many Hawkeye fans on this board. Welcome.

why not..its a pretty good board and most days you are on top of things...today you are not

**Cyhart** · 06-25-2010, 11:46 AM

Originally Posted by hawkadoodledoo

Again, just because the big 12 had more early entries, doesn't mean they have more talent. MSU and Purdue could have had early entries, but they decided to stay in school. The two leagues were very comparable last year, as much as Chris can't see it.

And im sure there are other Big 12 players who decided to stay in school as well that could have declared. One of the Morris twins comes to mind but im sure there are plenty more.

**azn4cy** · 06-25-2010, 11:48 AM

Originally Posted by maintain242001

Apples to oranges again...different leagues, different styles. UNI pwned your best team last year so UNI was the better team all year long correct..and they would have won the Big 12 right?

So then you would also say that Butler would have won the Big 10?

Or I suppose since Texas also beat your best team MSU, does that mean they would have won the Big 10??

I think CW was saying that in a single game anything can happen. It doesn't mean the winning team had the better season or has more talent.

**clonecard** · 06-25-2010, 11:49 AM

Chris - how dare you confuse the issue with stats?

**chadly82** · 06-25-2010, 11:50 AM

Originally Posted by Wesley

They had zero though most of draft, must have been very late.

Pondexter went late first round i thought?????

**ISUJeff** · 06-25-2010, 11:52 AM

Originally Posted by ChrisMWilliams

I had no idea that we had so many Hawkeye fans on this board. Welcome.

I actually do not like the Hawks at all. I am a Nebraska fan and that is why I now like the Big 10

**hawkeyescott** · 06-25-2010, 11:54 AM

Originally Posted by ChrisMWilliams

You are right. That would have made a difference. But that doesn't change my original point.

What about the eye test? Be honest. Watching the Big 12 last year vs. the Big Ten...which league do you think was better. Forget the draft stats. Just the eye test. What is your honest opinion?

I'll admit the Big 12 was a better league top to bottom last year, I don't have a problem with that, but I don't think as far as NBA talent goes the Big 12 is that much better.

If your whole argument is the Big 12 has a little more talent then the Big 10 then I can understand that but to say the conference was better because of this talent I don't understand that logic because sometimes the whole is greater than the sum of the parts, (see Butler making the title game, yes I know Heyward was drafted high) and the reason why Michigan St continues to be good year after year.

**ChrisMWilliams** · 06-25-2010, 11:54 AM

Originally Posted by ISUJeff

I actually do not like the Hawks at all. I am a Nebraska fan and that is why I now like the Big 10

Why is ISU in your name?

**hawkadoodledoo** · 06-25-2010, 12:05 PM

Originally Posted by ChrisMWilliams

Why is ISU in your name?

Nice. Chris, I think the big 12 WAS better last year, just not so extreme, as you make it out to be.

**Clones85'** · 06-25-2010, 12:05 PM

The Big 10 has Michigan St and nobody else. They have saved that conference from being awful in the NCAA tournament for the last 10 years. What was it 3 years ago where the Big 10 didn't have a single team make it past the weekend? That is terrible.

This past year the Big 10 had 3 teams that might not have won more than a game in the Big 12. Iowa, Indiana, and Penn St were all awful.

As for talent coming out of each conference. Big 12 wins in a landslide. Look at the past 3 years alone. Big 12 has had 14 guys drafted in the first round. Big 10? 5. 1 each of the last 2 years.

**ISUJeff** · 06-25-2010, 12:08 PM

Originally Posted by ChrisMWilliams

Why is ISU in your name?

I used to be a HUGE ISU fan until the worst coach in the history of college sports destroyed a good basketball program and to top it off, the athletic director wasn't going to fire him! Decided it was time to jump ship and have not changed my name. Kinda still like it.

**ChrisMWilliams** · 06-25-2010, 12:10 PM

Originally Posted by ISUJeff

I used to be a HUGE ISU fan until the worst coach in the history of college sports destroyed a good basketball program and to top it off, the athletic director wasn't going to fire him! Decided it was time to jump ship and have not changed my name. Kinda still like it.

Classy. So you just jumped from being an ISU fan to Nebraska...just like that? But you joined in June of 2010. But you didn't change your name after you made the switch? Something doesn't add up.

**IcSyU** · 06-25-2010, 12:11 PM

Originally Posted by ISUJeff

I used to be a HUGE ISU fan until the worst coach in the history of college sports destroyed a good basketball program and to top it off, the athletic director wasn't going to fire him! Decided it was time to jump ship and have not changed my name. Kinda still like it.

You're a *********.