Trademark - Waukee was just the Beginning

[jdoggivjc]

I wonder what Ames' inspiration was when designing their logo...
Ames High Athletics. Org

The A with HIGH at the top of the page looks a lot like the I State logo...especially the HIGH font.

ISU AD might have licensed them the use of the Cyclone font.

[stlcardinals5]

other metro teams with no issues..
urbandale-the "U" comes from Miamis U. The J Hawk can be tied to Kansas.
Hoover- The huskies is written in the same style as Nebraska's "Huskers"
East- Old "E" looked like green Bay Packers G.
Valley-Has used Tiger logos of LSU and Mizzou in the past.
Roosevelt-Briefly uses Wyoming's Cowboy.
Wisconsin just wanted to make a scene. you can do this for about any school. honestly if i was wisconsin i would feel honored not mad..just me i guess?

[clone26]

other metro teams with no issues..
urbandale-the "U" comes from Miamis U. The J Hawk can be tied to Kansas.
Hoover- The huskies is written in the same style as Nebraska's "Huskers"
East- Old "E" looked like green Bay Packers G.
Valley-Has used Tiger logos of LSU and Mizzou in the past.
Roosevelt-Briefly uses Wyoming's Cowboy.
Wisconsin just wanted to make a scene. you can do this for about any school. honestly if i was wisconsin i would feel honored not mad..just me i guess?

-Valley also uses the Virginia Tech "VT" logo.
-SEP uses a Ram similar to St Louis

[Three4Cy]

Carlisle uses K-States Wildcat logo. When the whole thing happened with Waukee a dew years ago, they asked K-State about it, and K-State said all they asked Carlisle to do waspay them $1.00 every three years for the use of the logo. They said they were honored someone wanted to use their logo on their athletic uniforms, and it really didn't upset them. As someone who lives in the Waukee school district, I honestly hate the flying W. We are the Warriors, not the Flying W's, but we can't use Warriors on anything because it's not politically correct.

[TykeClone]

Universities may have to request a licensing fee, but they have the option to waive it. The company I used to work for used logos from many different universities on products that we sold, and there was not always a fee involved for using them.

Colleges should probably just view these usages as free advertising and generate good will in those communities.

[aeroclone]

It does seem to depend on the school. I think the Waukee W was as distinct from the Wisconsin W as the Urbandale U is from Miami. Yet Miami seemed to have no prob and Wisconsin threatened legal action. KSU will license their logo to high schools for $1.

Recently there was a dust up down here between a Kansas City high school and the University of Texas. UT asked that the logo be changed.

Don't mess with Texas logo, Gardner Edgerton High School learns - KansasCity.com

I don't disagree that it is within the rights of the universities to stop high schools from doing this, but I really think it is something they should let slide. It is so prevalent, and it really doesn't harm the college. Nobody is mistaking Waukee for Wisconsin. In fact, if anything, it increases awareness. I see Urbandales new logo and say, oh, they ditched the KU Jayhawk and use the Miami U now. It is more like free advertising than brand dilution.

[guitarchitect7]

So how about a fight for helmet designs? Probably not an issue as it probably can't be trademarked...

[clone26]

It does seem to depend on the school. I think the Waukee W was as distinct from the Wisconsin W as the Urbandale U is from Miami. Yet Miami seemed to have no prob and Wisconsin threatened legal action. KSU will license their logo to high schools for $1.

Recently there was a dust up down here between a Kansas City high school and the University of Texas. UT asked that the logo be changed.

Don't mess with Texas logo, Gardner Edgerton High School learns - KansasCity.com

I don't disagree that it is within the rights of the universities to stop high schools from doing this, but I really think it is something they should let slide. It is so prevalent, and it really doesn't harm the college. Nobody is mistaking Waukee for Wisconsin. In fact, if anything, it increases awareness. I see Urbandales new logo and say, oh, they ditched the KU Jayhawk and use the Miami U now. It is more like free advertising than brand dilution.

Urbandale didn't ditch the Jayhawk - they simply modified it based of KU recommendations and this happened at least 5 years ago. They use both logos, the U is seen more in the media as they wear it on their helmets but anyone that is familiar with the stadium or gyms knows that the bird is everywhere.

In fact, Urbandale's mascot used to be spelled "Jayhawk" but KU has the word itself trademarked. I know Urbandale had to change their bird to make it atleast 25% different from KU's and had to change their name to J-Hawks, which I believe they have a trademark on.

[alarson]

Here's a comparison of Wisconsin and Waukee, that led to the original dust-up:

Its similar, but since its such a basic thing, even minor differences are major... the waukee logo's main differences are in color and in that the middle of the W ends in a point and not a block.

[Cyched]

Carlisle uses K-States Wildcat logo. When the whole thing happened with Waukee a dew years ago, they asked K-State about it, and K-State said all they asked Carlisle to do waspay them $1.00 every three years for the use of the logo. They said they were honored someone wanted to use their logo on their athletic uniforms, and it really didn't upset them. As someone who lives in the Waukee school district, I honestly hate the flying W. We are the Warriors, not the Flying W's, but we can't use Warriors on anything because it's not politically correct.

I graduated from Waukee, and I remember the brief period after the Wisconsin situation when we were without a logo or mascot. Then we had to vote between a Celtic or a Spartan warrior(I hated both choices). Funny enough the spartan won and on one of our posters they used a purple Michigan State Spartan head.

The only issue I had with this was that, as a previous poster stated, there are Wisconsin high schools, some very near Madison, that have the EXACT same W(The old flying W was in actuality a morph between the Wisky and Washington W's). IMO they had no business dealing with us until they approached the Wisconsin schools.

[theshadow]

IMO they had no business dealing with us until they approached the Wisconsin schools.

Who says they didn't?

[Mr Janny]

Who says they didn't?

exactly. They might have decided to grant the Wisconsin schools permission to use their logo, but not out of state schools. That's well within their right.

[delt4cy]

exactly. They might have decided to grant the Wisconsin schools permission to use their logo, but not out of state schools. That's well within their right.

It is well within their right, but still hypocritical and a waste of time on the part of UW. Arrogant jerkholes.

[Colossus]

I think Waukee should of told them where to go.
Wisky does not own the letter W.

psst... Don't tell Wisky 'bout Davenport West, or Wilton ethier.

[SvrWxCy]

It really isn't too hard to come up with a logo based upon someone else, yet make it unique enough so that it doesn't breach their trademark. Whenever you are creating a logo that is based off of an already trademarked logo then all it takes is a search of the federal trademark to find out what they have reserved and how much you have to change to avoid such hassles. I bet in this instance if they were to change the curvature of the 'W' in question, a few more cosmetic changes and it would likely be far enough away from Wisconsin's that they couldn't do anything about it.

Iowa State has several things trademarked, including ISU... And it is all up to the person who owns the trademark to enforce it, they can pick and choose who they will allow to use it and whether for free, for $1, for $1000 dollars or not at all.