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DaddyMac · 03-24-2008, 10:43 AM

Originally Posted by cyismydog

For instance, I agree w/ Deace on about 50% of things he says on his radio show. However, from what you guys are saying it sounds like his a hypocrite. He doesn't deliver what he promises, and treats his employees badly. Thanks guys for changing my view of Steve Deace completely, and making me see him for who he really is.

The thing that really irks me about SD, is what you nailed right on the head - he's a hypocrite.

He preaches on and on about his religion. How he's "not a man of this world, but the next world." Yet while he's here, he pretty much treats anyone who won't benefit him, like dirt.

Preaches and claims being a Christian, but acts quite the opposite.

cyismydog · 03-24-2008, 10:47 AM

Originally Posted by DaddyMac

The thing that really irks me about SD, is what you nailed right on the head - he's a hypocrite.

He preaches on and on about his religion. How he's "not a man of this world, but the next world." Yet while he's here, he pretty much treats anyone who won't benefit him, like dirt.

Preaches and claims being a Christian, but acts quite the opposite.

Exactly. You hit the nail on the head. I also agree politically with PoppaShongo on a lot of things, (e.g. Des Moines School board), but I don't think he practices what he preaches.

Phaedrus · 03-24-2008, 10:48 AM

My wife and I support various non-profit organizations with our funds, guidance, physical support and downright menial labor all the time. The majority of the non-profits who solicit our help are a lot like Mr. Deace. They have these grand ideas, but totally lack the ability to carry them out and deliver on their promises.

It has become our policy to a) assume incompetence until proven otherwise, and to b) not make the distinction between evil intent and sheer incompetence. Sometimes they look so similar that it is difficult to ascertain which they are.

The problem is, if you are so incompetent that you constantly screw people over, how are you different from a crook whose intent is to screw people? A responsible individual would relook what they are doing and change "something" to stop from hurting people.

Cyclonesrule91 · 03-24-2008, 10:49 AM

I used to like the fat guy who is now only pleasantly plump before I found out how genuine he actually is, but have never liked the school board member who holds everybody else to a standard 10 stories higher then he has ever operated himself, but I refuse to put their names down. Anybody whose motto is to make as much "bank" as possible picked the wrong college team in Iowa as we are much smarter(or at least most of us are) then their shallow silly little schemes.

cyismydog · 03-24-2008, 10:50 AM

Originally Posted by Cyclonesrule91

I used to like the fat guy who is now only pleasantly plump before I found out how genuine he actually is, but have never liked the school board member who holds everybody else to a standard 10 stories higher then he has ever operated himself, but I refuse to put their names down. Anybody whose motto is to make as much "bank" as possible picked the wrong college team in Iowa as we are much smarter(or at least most of us are) then their shallow silly little schemes.

Wow, that is a perfect characterization.

DaddyMac · 03-24-2008, 10:50 AM

Originally Posted by Phaedrus

My wife and I support various non-profit organizations with our funds, guidance, physical support and downright menial labor all the time. The majority of the non-profits who solicit our help are a lot like Mr. Deace. They have these grand ideas, but totally lack the ability to carry them out and deliver on their promises.

It has become our policy to a) assume incompetence until proven otherwise, and to b) not make the distinction between evil intent and sheer incompetence. Sometimes they look so similar that it is difficult to ascertain which they are.

The problem is, if you are so incompetent that you constantly screw people over, how are you different from a crook whose intent is to screw people? A responsible individual would relook what they are doing and change "something" to stop from hurting people.

Oh, I've never had the feeling that he's incompetent. Quite the contrary.

Which really focuses the spot light on your last point....

DBQ Clone · 03-24-2008, 10:51 AM

So my question still stands...

How did he finagle his way into the mainstream media. Sometimes we're bumbling fools too, but I'd think if SD and Co. were that bad, someone would haul on the brakes. Or are his ratings that good? If that's the case, then a multitude of sins are covered.

cys_av8r · 03-24-2008, 10:52 AM

Originally Posted by DBQ Clone

How did he finagle his way into the mainstream media.

I can ask that question of about 90% of mainstream media folks.

DaddyMac · 03-24-2008, 10:53 AM

Originally Posted by DBQ Clone

So my question still stands...

How did he finagle his way into the mainstream media. Sometimes we're bumbling fools too, but I'd think if SD and Co. were that bad, someone would haul on the brakes. Or are his ratings that good? If that's the case, then a multitude of sins are covered.

I can't deny he's a charasmatic and engaging personality. He did his sports show on KXNO quite well.

But his spot on "State of the Nations" is little more than a case of being the only show in town.

He owned and operated CN. Who else are you going to put up there?

cyismydog · 03-24-2008, 10:53 AM

I might as well come clean: I listen to Deace sometimes. I don't know why, but I sometimes even find myself enjoying parts of the show. Sometimes he makes sense, and I think it's almost like look at the message, not the messanger. I don't like him personally, but sometimes he makes good points.

DBQ Clone · 03-24-2008, 10:54 AM

Originally Posted by cys_av8r

I can ask that question of about 90% of mainstream media folks.

Well, see, some of us get this thing called a Bachelors Degree in Journalism. Then we work our way up in the world.

Other get in by who they know, which is how I suspect SD got there.

cys_av8r · 03-24-2008, 10:57 AM

Originally Posted by DBQ Clone

Well, see, some of us get this thing called a Bachelors Degree in Journalism. Then we work our way up in the world.

Other get in by who they know, which is how I suspect SD got there.

It ain't WHAT you know, it's WHO you know. Or something like that....

Unless WHAT you know is that some high level exec cheated on his wife.

DBQ Clone · 03-24-2008, 10:59 AM

Originally Posted by DaddyMac

I can't deny he's a charasmatic and engaging personality. He did his sports show on KXNO quite well.

But his spot on "State of the Nations" is little more than a case of being the only show in town.

He owned and operated CN. Who else are you going to put up there?

That makes sense. So does he still do a show on KXNO? Where is that out of? I've never heard his show.

Now the Mediacom thing is becoming clearer. Although on television, Deace and Miller are about as engaging as the TV Guide channel.

To be honest, I find this insight fascinating...

DBQ Clone · 03-24-2008, 11:01 AM

Originally Posted by cys_av8r

It ain't WHAT you know, it's WHO you know. Or something like that....

Unless WHAT you know is that some high level exec cheated on his wife.

This is true in many cases, although I'd like to think I've gotten to where I am in my profession by dint of my character and skill.

Although you won't be seeing me as a news director any time soon.

cys_av8r · 03-24-2008, 11:01 AM

Originally Posted by DBQ Clone

That makes sense. So does he still do a show on KXNO? Where is that out of? I've never heard his show.

Now the Mediacom thing is becoming clearer. Although on television, Deace and Miller are about as engaging as the TV Guide channel.

To be honest, I find this insight fascinating...

He is on WHO out of Des Moines. It is a ranting and raving political show.