Things are very quiet in Ames

[isuno1fan]

Originally Posted by Al_4_State

I don't think we need to do an upper deck bowl. Honestly, I just don't think there is that kind of population in iowa to support 130,000 (kinnick + expanded Jack) people at d-1 football games every saturday, assuming the hawks have a home game too. I think if we bowl in the lower level on the south, we will fill it pretty consistently, but I would rather see the extra money go into stadium beautification, like brick fences, new seats, completing the east concourse, etc, etc. I would take all of that over a bball practice facility. This is all, of course, assuming this rumored deal thing happens... I seriously hope this isn't an April fool's joke

I guess we'll have to turn some Hawk fans into Cyclones then....

Jon Miller...are you listening?

[DMBclone]

Originally Posted by kingcy

They need to do the BB facality before they add the upperdeck. By doing everything to the staduim you are putting all your eggs in one basket. JP needs to show McD and the BB players he is commited to basketball as well as FB. Right now ISU needs a BB facality worse than an upperdeck on a part of the stadium that isnt built yet.

I have to agree with you on that one.

[ColoradoClone]

Actually, I was one that thought the B-Ball facility was more important, but with the recent approval of State Gym remodel and expansions, and Beyer and Forker renovations, I don't think it's as pressing of a need right now. I think rebuilding a football program is much more difficult than Basketball, and we can't afford to get behind there. Big 12 Facility wise, we're not as far behind in basketball as football, and we've already proven we can compete in the big 12 with the facilities we have. Yes, we have to improve them, but I think state gym improvements make a good short term solution that allows football to continue to play catchup.

[Al_4_State]

Originally Posted by ColoradoClone

Actually, I was one that thought the B-Ball facility was more important, but with the recent approval of State Gym remodel and expansions, and Beyer and Forker renovations, I don't think it's as pressing of a need right now. I think rebuilding a football program is much more difficult than Basketball, and we can't afford to get behind there. Big 12 Facility wise, we're not as far behind in basketball as football, and we've already proven we can compete in the big 12 with the facilities we have. Yes, we have to improve them, but I think state gym improvements make a good short term solution that allows football to continue to play catchup.

agree 100%

[BryceC]

Originally Posted by ColoradoClone

Actually, I was one that thought the B-Ball facility was more important, but with the recent approval of State Gym remodel and expansions, and Beyer and Forker renovations, I don't think it's as pressing of a need right now. I think rebuilding a football program is much more difficult than Basketball, and we can't afford to get behind there. Big 12 Facility wise, we're not as far behind in basketball as football, and we've already proven we can compete in the big 12 with the facilities we have. Yes, we have to improve them, but I think state gym improvements make a good short term solution that allows football to continue to play catchup.

I disagree here - our football practice facility is still very nice in comparison to a lot of schools. Our basketball facilities might only be better than Nebraska's and Baylors.

[isuno1fan]

There's no question that if left up to JP, Football will come first. It is MUCH more important for an AD to have a solid FB program than BBall.

Having said that, we are striving for both.

[ColoradoClone]

Originally Posted by BryceC

I disagree here - our football practice facility is still very nice in comparison to a lot of schools. Our basketball facilities might only be better than Nebraska's and Baylors.

I guess I think the game day environment is more important to a recruit than the practice area. I could be wrong, since I've never been recruited.

What I do know though is, Hilton more than holds its own with any place in the big 12 to play basketball. Jack trice competes with only Mzzou and KU. I'm not saying that B-ball doesn't need something, I'm just saying the need isn't as pressing if State Gym gets the overhaul and expansion they're planning.

[keepngoal]

personally, I am for a BB practice facility and BB locker room redesign/upgrade before a south end zone.

But I could see both being done in 5-6 years.

-keep.

[DBQ Clone]

Here's the thing.

If they're going to bowl in the end zone, then they should do the whole thing. Upper and lower decks. It just makes financial sense in terms of building cost. The longer you wait to build the upper deck, the more it will cost to do it. If you're going to do it, do it right the first time.

A complete south end is doing it right, IMO. All apologies to the BBall teams.

A large donor would generally call the shots on something like that I would think. Or at least have some say. If they're donating for football, then the money should go to JTS, regardless of previous plans.

[cmoore_23]

i think practice facility is more important then an upper deck... recruiting would be easier with a nice place to practice...

[CyValley]

Originally Posted by cycopath25

quite /kwaɪt/Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[kwahyt]Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation
–adverb 1.completely, wholly, or entirely: quite the reverse; not quite finished. 2.actually, really, or truly: quite a sudden change. 3.to a considerable extent or degree: quite small; quite objectionable.
[Origin: 1300–50; ME, adv. use of quit(e), a var. of quit(te) quit1, the meaning of the two forms not being distinct in ME]



qui·et1 /ˈkwaɪɪt/Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[kwahy-it]Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciationadjective, -er, -est, verb
–adjective 1.making no noise or sound, esp. no disturbing sound: quiet neighbors. . . .

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pedantic
pe·dan·tic (p-dntk)adj. Characterized by a narrow, often ostentatious concern for book learning and formal rules: a pedantic attention to details.

A pedant, or pædant, is a person who is overly concerned with formalism and precision, or who makes a show of learning.

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Geez. . . .

[tim_redd]

Originally Posted by CyValley

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pedantic
pe·dan·tic (p-dntk)adj. Characterized by a narrow, often ostentatious concern for book learning and formal rules: a pedantic attention to details.

A pedant, or pædant, is a person who is overly concerned with formalism and precision, or who makes a show of learning.

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Geez. . . .

I agree as well. Shallow and pedantic.

[Rogue52]

I have no doubt that a speed up of the south endzone can take place, but I highly doubt that an upper deck would be included in such a remodel. We can't even fill the corners on a typical Saturday at Jack Trice. How can Pollard justify a complete upper/lower bowling in of the south endzone? Especially if he leaves the basketball team in the dust.

Having said that, I hope it happens.

[cyclonedave25]

Lets just do them both at the same time and please everybody!
Assuming the rumor is true, we just need one more huge donor for basketball. Any volunteers?!?!

[clone2011]

The only way I can really see justifying a second deck, currently (with respect to current average attendance), is by stopping the sale of hillsides altogether. Most Saturdays we can't fill all four hillsides, and it would really look bad to have a half-full double deck endzone and packed hillsides. Now having a packed double deck endzone and empty hillsides? Not too shabby IMO.