Things are very quiet in Ames

tim_redd · 04-01-2008, 04:17 PM

Look at it this way. Right now we need money. Which of these projects is going to bring in money? There's your answer...

BryceC · 04-01-2008, 04:20 PM

Originally Posted by Rogue52

I have no doubt that a speed up of the south endzone can take place, but I highly doubt that an upper deck would be included in such a remodel. We can't even fill the corners on a typical Saturday at Jack Trice. How can Pollard justify a complete upper/lower bowling in of the south endzone? Especially if he leaves the basketball team in the dust.

Having said that, I hope it happens.

I hate to **** in people's cereal, but I've said this many times - we can't sell out a game unless the opposing team brings in a lot of fans. There is no reason to add a bunch more seats.

tim_redd · 04-01-2008, 04:22 PM

Originally Posted by BryceC

I hate to **** in people's cereal, but I've said this many times - we can't sell out a game unless the opposing team brings in a lot of fans. There is no reason to add a bunch more seats.

It's not about more seats. It's about charging more for the seats that (aren't really) already there.

cyclonedave25 · 04-01-2008, 04:23 PM

Originally Posted by clone2011

The only way I can really see justifying a second deck, currently (with respect to current average attendance), is by stopping the sale of hillsides altogether. Most Saturdays we can't fill all four hillsides, and it would really look bad to have a half-full double deck endzone and packed hillsides. Now having a packed double deck endzone and empty hillsides? Not too shabby IMO.

I agree. Maybe sell the endzone seats for the same price as hillside. And the upper deck endzone for really cheap.

Cydkar · 04-01-2008, 04:24 PM

No doubt. Football first...and I'm a basketball guy.

BryceC · 04-01-2008, 04:24 PM

Originally Posted by tim_redd

It's not about more seats. It's about charging more for the seats that (aren't really) already there.

Well that's fine, but then why build the second deck? That's what I was talking about.

tim_redd · 04-01-2008, 04:32 PM

Originally Posted by BryceC

Well that's fine, but then why build the second deck? That's what I was talking about.

Let's think about this. Totally rough numbers here, but if it adds 10,000 seats. And you can sell all those once a year to the Iowa/Nebraska game for 50$ a ticket, thats a half mil for one game. Then you look at the attendance for the games against UNI and those were near capacity. You're kind of putting your eggs in one basket, but if the football thing under Chiz takes off, you'll be ahead of the curve.

cy1225 · 04-01-2008, 04:44 PM

Originally Posted by tim_redd

It's not about more seats. It's about charging more for the seats that (aren't really) already there.

How can you charge more when they are allready $55 per game? Count me out if ticket prices keep climbing, I am not paying an arm and a leg for a 3-9 football team.

Bader · 04-01-2008, 04:46 PM

Originally Posted by cy1225

How can you charge more when they are allready $55 per game? Count me out if ticket prices keep climbing, I am not paying an arm and a leg for a 3-9 football team.

He's talking about being able to charge more for a real seat as opposed to selling hill sides tickets, which are cheaper than tickets for a seat

tman24 · 04-01-2008, 04:53 PM

I would much rather sit in the upper deck of the bowl then sit on the hillside if the tickets are the same price. I would even rather sit up there if they are alittle more expensive. I hate sitting on the hill side.

DBQ Clone · 04-01-2008, 05:11 PM

I've sat on the hillsides. They are fun for about the first half-hour. Then your ankles start to hurt from trying to hold you from sliding downhill. And the view is for krep.

Gimme real seats in a bowled in endzone any day.

I'm just saying that building the second deck is more cost effective in the long run. You'd get all those real (higher priced) seats to sell NOW, versus still having crummy hillside seats that sell at a lower price and not have a double deck.

Plus, if you're saying "we don't fill what we have now," then apparently planning for the future of the program is something inconceivable.

keepngoal · 04-01-2008, 05:22 PM

Originally Posted by clone2011

The only way I can really see justifying a second deck, currently (with respect to current average attendance), is by stopping the sale of hillsides altogether. Most Saturdays we can't fill all four hillsides, and it would really look bad to have a half-full double deck endzone and packed hillsides. Now having a packed double deck endzone and empty hillsides? Not too shabby IMO.

agreed about the double deck seats > hillside seats.

BUT.....

When Iowa and N come to town.. JP would open the hillsides for their fans. And he would make sure the hillsides are watered plenty the night before.

-keep

clonerules · 04-01-2008, 05:23 PM

does anyone know where a link can b found showing what the south end zone should look like?

ColoradoClone · 04-01-2008, 05:24 PM

I look at the upper deck of the endzone this way...

If it costs less to do it at the same time, do it. I wouldn't be surprised to fine it costs twice as much to add it in 5-10 years... probably more. Assume it adds 6,000 seats. At $55/game for Iowa or Nebraska, UNI, and Homecoming each year, that's almost $1,000,000 for those 3 games and assumes we never sell another one of those upper deck seats for the rest of the year. Now assume in a few years our team is much better... we're selling out those additional seats every game. That's an extra 2 mil or more a year. Seems smart to do it when it costs less, and capitalize on it early.

BryceC · 04-01-2008, 05:28 PM

Originally Posted by tim_redd

Let's think about this. Totally rough numbers here, but if it adds 10,000 seats. And you can sell all those once a year to the Iowa/Nebraska game for 50$ a ticket, thats a half mil for one game. Then you look at the attendance for the games against UNI and those were near capacity. You're kind of putting your eggs in one basket, but if the football thing under Chiz takes off, you'll be ahead of the curve.

That's a half mil for one game... agreed. So let's say for two a year, that would be an extra million.

However, the cost of the double deck as said by clones33 before would be close to 30 million. It would take 30 years to pay that off.

I'm not at all opposed to it. I think it would be outstanding for the program. I just don't think we should go building a crapload of extra seats when there is no real proof we can fill them when other programs need just as much help in the money department.