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04-01-2008, 04:31 PM
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Credits: 315,199 | Re: Things are very quiet in Ames Originally Posted by BryceC That's a half mil for one game... agreed. So let's say for two a year, that would be an extra million.
However, the cost of the double deck as said by clones33 before would be close to 30 million. It would take 30 years to pay that off. So lets assume that in 10 years, the cost to do it is 60 mil (I dont think that's too unreasonable). Instead of looking at a 60 million dollar upgrade, you're looking at paying off 20 million. By having the vision to do it early, you saved 40 million dollars... and that assumes you didn't sell a single ticket for those seats beyond the 2 games per year for 10 years.
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04-01-2008, 04:38 PM
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#62 (permalink)
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Credits: 742,735 | Re: Things are very quiet in Ames Originally Posted by BryceC That's a half mil for one game... agreed. So let's say for two a year, that would be an extra million.
However, the cost of the double deck as said by clones33 before would be close to 30 million. It would take 30 years to pay that off.
I'm not at all opposed to it. I think it would be outstanding for the program. I just don't think we should go building a crapload of extra seats when there is no real proof we can fill them when other programs need just as much help in the money department. That's why it's very important to have a large donor. | | |
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04-01-2008, 05:32 PM
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#63 (permalink)
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Credits: 502,670 Year: 2007 Degree: Political Science NFL: Vikings | Re: Things are very quiet in Ames
It really seems silly to me to build more than one level in the south endzone. It is my understand that a bowled in south endzone would essentially replace those hillside seats and bring our seated capacity to a little over 50,000, as right now, i think it's at 47,000 seats, and when we fill all 4 hillsides we can get 57,000, so therefore wiping out half the hillside capacity would presumably put 5,000 more actual seats giving us a seated capacity of 52,000. If we put butts in those seats consistently AND fill the north hills for 4-5 years, then we think about adding the upper deck. It's just going to look stupid having an empty upper deck for every game that isn't Iowa or Nebraska...
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I'll order up another shot of sin, I'm running twice as hard into the wind, I'll hitch a ride when the next one comes in, fell off the wagon again...
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04-01-2008, 05:56 PM
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Credits: 2,213 | Re: Things are very quiet in Ames Originally Posted by ColoradoClone So lets assume that in 10 years, the cost to do it is 60 mil (I dont think that's too unreasonable). Instead of looking at a 60 million dollar upgrade, you're looking at paying off 20 million. By having the vision to do it early, you saved 40 million dollars... and that assumes you didn't sell a single ticket for those seats beyond the 2 games per year for 10 years. And let's say in 10 years we still would only have those seats full for Iowa and Nebraska every year. It still isn't worth it. Basically, to me it is taking a huge gamble on a lot of money for something that might be worth it. Meanwhile there are other programs (namely MBB and WBB) who suffer because of the lack of a practice facility and other things. That is my point.
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04-01-2008, 06:04 PM
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Lucky for us we won't have to make the decision and neither will anyone inside the AD per say. It will be made by someone willing to put their money into it to the tune of 10mil+. If they want to bowl in the endzone they will do that and if they want a practice facility they will do that. If they want to donate something like 25mil to JT they will probably seriously consider a double deck because there is no way it doesn't increase revanue as long as you don't take out too much debt to pay for it. As a rule of thumb if you sell out every game you are losing potential revanue but when you have too big of a stadium people don't like looking at empty seats. Another thing to consider, you can always adjust prices to get the right amount of people in the seats. Which could result in more people watching football in JT at a lower average price.
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04-01-2008, 06:19 PM
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Credits: 502,670 Year: 2007 Degree: Political Science NFL: Vikings | Re: Things are very quiet in Ames Originally Posted by HGPuck Lucky for us we won't have to make the decision and neither will anyone inside the AD per say. It will be made by someone willing to put their money into it to the tune of 10mil+. If they want to bowl in the endzone they will do that and if they want a practice facility they will do that. If they want to donate something like 25mil to JT they will probably seriously consider a double deck because there is no way it doesn't increase revanue as long as you don't take out too much debt to pay for it. As a rule of thumb if you sell out every game you are losing potential revanue but when you have too big of a stadium people don't like looking at empty seats. Another thing to consider, you can always adjust prices to get the right amount of people in the seats. Which could result in more people watching football in JT at a lower average price. ooh. I like.
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I'll order up another shot of sin, I'm running twice as hard into the wind, I'll hitch a ride when the next one comes in, fell off the wagon again...
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04-01-2008, 06:49 PM
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Credits: 137,335 Year: 2010 Degree: Anthropology NFL: Packers MLB: Cubs | Re: Things are very quiet in Ames
Getting away from the money aspect for a minute, how loud would that south end zone be if the student section was moved down there and let loose? I have to think the noise level would climb astronomically
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04-01-2008, 07:06 PM
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Would this bowl go around the Jumbotron or would they knock it down. I am a little confused on that aspect of this.
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04-01-2008, 07:10 PM
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Credits: 374,931 Year: 2008 Degree: Exercise Science | Re: Things are very quiet in Ames Originally Posted by gocubs2118 Would this bowl go around the Jumbotro or would they knock it down. I am a little confused on that aspect of this. By "jumbotron", do you mean oversized television??? 
I really hope we get a new jumbotron and sound system. The one we have now is sub-par, it's more like a triple bogey.
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04-01-2008, 07:51 PM
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Credits: 777 | Re: Things are very quiet in Ames Originally Posted by PackerClone Getting away from the money aspect for a minute, how loud would that south end zone be if the student section was moved down there and let loose? I have to think the noise level would climb astronomically But the view is great in the middle of the field where the students are now! why move them?
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04-01-2008, 07:52 PM
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Credits: 465,556 NFL: Chiefs MLB: Dodgers | Re: Things are very quiet in Ames Originally Posted by crash_zone But the view is great in the middle of the field where the students are now! why move them? So they can sell those tickets at a higher price, and expand donor seating
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04-01-2008, 07:54 PM
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Credits: 141,344 NFL: Seahawks MLB: Mariners | Re: Things are very quiet in Ames Originally Posted by tim_redd That's why it's very important to have a large donor.  I wish WE could've fired Sean Sutton! Then we could've gotten T. Boone money!
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Oh... people will come Mr. Pollard. People will most definitely come.
No, I don't live in Seattle anymore, I'm back in Des Moines but I don't feel like changing my username.
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