Smoking ban at ISU

isuno1fan · 04-17-2008, 01:21 PM

Not sure about the parking lot, but the more we can rid this world of smoking the better....plain and simple.

The stadium seating area has been non-smoking for years. I have personally turned in a handful of "kids" with no respect for the rules smoking in the stadium around me and I certainly don't feel bad about it and will do it again in a second.

Smoking is flat out disgusting and a nice day can quickly be ruined by having the unfortunate luck of sitting next to or near a smoker.

OK...fire away.

ISUAlum05 · 04-17-2008, 01:32 PM

Originally Posted by isuno1fan

Not sure about the parking lot, but the more we can rid this world of smoking the better....plain and simple.

The stadium seating area has been non-smoking for years. I have personally turned in a handful of "kids" with no respect for the rules smoking in the stadium around me and I certainly don't feel bad about it and will do it again in a second.

Smoking is flat out disgusting and a nice day can quickly be ruined by having the unfortunate luck of sitting next to or near a smoker.

OK...fire away.

Lots of things are flat out disgusting. Obese people are flat out disgusting. People with BO are flat out disgusting. The smell of sauerkraut is flat out disgusting. Would I be happier if I didn't have to experience these things? Of course. Am I willing to give up my freedoms and the freedoms of others just to make my day a little more pleasant? Hell no! That would be selfish, anti-American and flat out wrong.

cys_av8r · 04-17-2008, 01:34 PM

Smoking is not a right.

CloneIce · 04-17-2008, 01:36 PM

Originally Posted by DBQ Clone

Here's the issue. Smelly loud babies and overweight people don't affect the health of the people around them. Neither do drunk people unless they get behind the wheel or start assaulting people.

Smoking affects not only the person doing it, but everyone around them. As an asthmatic, it is not my responsibility to leave the location if you decide to start smoking. It will be my responsibility to ask you to stop, now that the law is in place.

Your right to smoke ends where my lungs begin. That argument applies to a lot of things. Assault for instance. Your right to hit me ends where my face begins. Its the way the law works.

There is NO right to smoke in the Constitution.

Someone smoking outdoors does not affect your health unless you are basically standing on top of them.

isuno1fan · 04-17-2008, 01:36 PM

Originally Posted by ISUAlum05

Lots of things are flat out disgusting. Obese people are flat out disgusting. People with BO are flat out disgusting. The smell of sauerkraut is flat out disgusting. Would I be happier if I didn't have to experience these things? Of course. Am I willing to give up my freedoms and the freedoms of others just to make my day a little more pleasant? Hell no! That would be selfish, anti-American and flat out wrong.

I'm ok with banning the things you speak of above as well.

BryceC · 04-17-2008, 01:37 PM

Originally Posted by ISUAlum05

Lots of things are flat out disgusting. Obese people are flat out disgusting. People with BO are flat out disgusting. The smell of sauerkraut is flat out disgusting. Would I be happier if I didn't have to experience these things? Of course. Am I willing to give up my freedoms and the freedoms of others just to make my day a little more pleasant? Hell no! That would be selfish, anti-American and flat out wrong.

Apparently fat people give you cancer now. We really need more gym in schools.

CloneIce · 04-17-2008, 01:41 PM

Originally Posted by isuno1fan

Not sure about the parking lot, but the more we can rid this world of smoking the better....plain and simple.

The stadium seating area has been non-smoking for years. I have personally turned in a handful of "kids" with no respect for the rules smoking in the stadium around me and I certainly don't feel bad about it and will do it again in a second.

Smoking is flat out disgusting and a nice day can quickly be ruined by having the unfortunate luck of sitting next to or near a smoker.

OK...fire away.

If smelling smoke is enough to ruin your day you might be a little too sensitive and emotional.

I am glad my days aren't spent on that kind of emotional roller coaster where the odor of smoke sends me into a spiral of despair which ruins my entire day. I'd hate to see how you would react if something bad or important actually happened.

CloneIce · 04-17-2008, 01:42 PM

Originally Posted by BryceC

Apparently fat people give you cancer now. We really need more gym in schools.

If you think you will get cancer from someone smoking outdoors by you then you are bat-**** crazy.

DBQ Clone · 04-17-2008, 01:46 PM

Originally Posted by CloneIce

Someone smoking outdoors does not affect your health unless you are basically standing on top of them.

I agree, in general. Although, I can tell if someone lights up in the car in front of me at a stop light if the wind is in the right direction.

In a crowd, it's a little more problematic. Like an outdoor concert, or tailgating. If I'm at a tailgate, and the people next door light up a bunch of cigarettes or cigars, then it's a problem and they need to stop.

One smoker 50 feet away is not a problem and a total ban on campus seems unenforceable and unrealistic. But just outside an entrance or in close quarters is not.

It's not the odor or the cancer I object to. The sun can give you cancer and body odor is more offensive that smoke. Cigarette smoke triggers my athsma. Period. You have no argument against that. I'll be glad when I can go to a bar and not feel like I can't breathe or wake up coughing up slugs of phlegm. So secondhand smoke is a danger whether you believe it or not, no matter where it is.

MaxPower57 · 04-17-2008, 01:51 PM

Secondhand smoke outside will NOT give you cancer, if you think it will you may be a hypochondriac.

I can understand the argument for not smoking in the bars and other buildings(while I disagree with it), I do agree with no smoking inside places like Jack Trice, but outside?? Come on now. The beer you drink and meat you eat while tailgating is more dangerous than the smoke from some stogie a guy is smoking 20 ft away outside.

Some of you are all for it because you of course do not smoke at all, which is fine, but are so quick to give away civil liberties, I know it isn't a right.

I guess I may be more of a sinner than a saint, but at least the sinners have more fun and don't complain and nag about little things like my mom or EIU fans j/k

Cy Heavy · 04-17-2008, 01:52 PM

Originally Posted by isuno1fan

Not sure about the parking lot, but the more we can rid this world of smoking the better....plain and simple.

The stadium seating area has been non-smoking for years. I have personally turned in a handful of "kids" with no respect for the rules smoking in the stadium around me and I certainly don't feel bad about it and will do it again in a second.

Smoking is flat out disgusting and a nice day can quickly be ruined by having the unfortunate luck of sitting next to or near a smoker.

OK...fire away.

Rep for you

CloneIceRe: Smoking ban at ISU
Originally Posted by DBQ Clone

Here's the issue. Smelly loud babies and overweight people don't affect the health of the people around them. Neither do drunk people unless they get behind the wheel or start assaulting people.

Smoking affects not only the person doing it, but everyone around them. As an asthmatic, it is not my responsibility to leave the location if you decide to start smoking. It will be my responsibility to ask you to stop, now that the law is in place.

Your right to smoke ends where my lungs begin. That argument applies to a lot of things. Assault for instance. Your right to hit me ends where my face begins. Its the way the law works.

There is NO right to smoke in the Constitution.

Someone smoking outdoors does not affect your health unless you are basically standing on top of them.

If I can smell it, I'm breathing it

akclone · 04-17-2008, 01:56 PM

I will submit that the overconsumption of alcohol at football games is more of a public safety/health issue than 2nd hand smoke.

What about those kids that died on the interstate during the Iowa game last year after tailgating?

DBQ Clone · 04-17-2008, 01:56 PM

Originally Posted by Cy Heavy

If I can smell it, I'm breathing it

My point exactly.

DBQ Clone · 04-17-2008, 01:59 PM

Originally Posted by akclone

I will submit that the overconsumption of alcohol at football games is more of a public safety/health issue than 2nd hand smoke.

What about those kids that died on the interstate during the Iowa game last year after tailgating?

I would submit that they hurt no one but themselves and their families by getting behind the wheel while intoxicated. Which is illegal in the state of Iowa, by the way. Also the fact they could have killed anyone else on that highway is why that law is in place.

In and of itself, consumption of alcohol is only harmful to the person consuming it. If I drink a beer, the person's liver next to me is unaffected.

garn91 · 04-17-2008, 02:01 PM

Originally Posted by DBQ Clone

Here's the issue. Smelly loud babies and overweight people don't affect the health of the people around them. Neither do drunk people unless they get behind the wheel or start assaulting people.

Smoking affects not only the person doing it, but everyone around them. As an asthmatic, it is not my responsibility to leave the location if you decide to start smoking. It will be my responsibility to ask you to stop, now that the law is in place.

Your right to smoke ends where my lungs begin. That argument applies to a lot of things. Assault for instance. Your right to hit me ends where my face begins. Its the way the law works.

There is NO right to smoke in the Constitution.

here's a novice idea, move away from the person who is bothering you.