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Old 04-17-2008, 02:02 PM   #46
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Re: Smoking ban at ISU

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here's a novice idea, move away from the person who is bothering you.
Wrong answer.

I shouldn't have to. I have as much right to be there as the smoker. I'm not releasing smoke into the air.

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Old 04-17-2008, 02:03 PM   #47
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Okay you are NOT going to get cancer from secondhand smoke you breath in while outside

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Old 04-17-2008, 02:05 PM   #48
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Wrong answer.

I shouldn't have to. I have as much right to be there as the smoker. I'm not releasing smoke into the air.
Well, gee, isn't it great that the people who make the rules finally realized that it's all about you?
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Old 04-17-2008, 02:09 PM   #49
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Well, gee, isn't it great that the people who make the rules finally realized that it's all about you?
Wow. Such a well seasoned arguement.

No. For once, it isn't all about the smokers.

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Old 04-17-2008, 02:09 PM   #50
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Old 04-17-2008, 02:10 PM   #51
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Viva la Revolucion! I must be able to smoke on campus!

I will start printing out the Marlboro Man shirts and berets.



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Old 04-17-2008, 02:11 PM   #52
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I am bothered by babies and children. I am annoyed by them and offended by their smell. I also don't care for overweight people, as they often smell too, especially after a long day of tailgating. I am sure all of you whose day is immediately ruined when you smell a puff of smoke will agree with me that no more children or overweight people should be allowed on any of these grounds as well.

Honestly, all I take from these threads is that I am glad I don't get my rocks off by complaining like some people apparently do. Some people simply live their lives looking for something to complain about, be offended by, or for something they can restrict others from doing.

I am sorry if I am not in tears at the thought of some of you occasionally smelling a cigarette at a tailgate! Nut up! Are you guys really such prissies that your day is ruined and the game ruined for you each time you smell someone's cigarette, OUTDOORS no less??

The joy some take by working to control what other people are doing is freakin disgusting to me. If some guy is smoking at a tailgate, who freakin cares! You really let this affect your day or bother you in some way? Why?

And please don't shoot back that some guy smoking by you oustide will give you lung cancer, if you think that is true there is no hope for you.
Agreed 100%. Great post. Although I don't smoke, I may just go buy a pack now and light up around people and let the smoke rise. I'm tired of people telling other people what they can and can not do. Society is turning into just a bunch of hypocritical whiners.
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Old 04-17-2008, 02:15 PM   #53
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I agree, in general. Although, I can tell if someone lights up in the car in front of me at a stop light if the wind is in the right direction.

In a crowd, it's a little more problematic. Like an outdoor concert, or tailgating. If I'm at a tailgate, and the people next door light up a bunch of cigarettes or cigars, then it's a problem and they need to stop.

One smoker 50 feet away is not a problem and a total ban on campus seems unenforceable and unrealistic. But just outside an entrance or in close quarters is not.

It's not the odor or the cancer I object to. The sun can give you cancer and body odor is more offensive that smoke. Cigarette smoke triggers my athsma. Period. You have no argument against that. I'll be glad when I can go to a bar and not feel like I can't breathe or wake up coughing up slugs of phlegm. So secondhand smoke is a danger whether you believe it or not, no matter where it is.
I am highly allergic to seafood. So, because I am the only person in the world who matters, no one should be allowed to have seafood in any public place. I should avoid Red Lobster you say? Preposterous! I have just as much right to be at Red Lobster as seafood-eaters.
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Old 04-17-2008, 02:19 PM   #54
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I don't really care either way but thats a ********* argument and I think you know it. I have yet to see anyone force feeding a stranger seafood at red lobster or elsewhere.
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Old 04-17-2008, 02:26 PM   #55
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I can understand the athsma thing a little bit, but that would mainly be harmful in constricted indoor settings, not unrestricted outdoor ones.

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Old 04-17-2008, 02:26 PM   #56
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Cell phones may be dangerous to our health. Time to ban those too... anyone against the right to smoke here should lead by example and toss their cell phones. Don't be hypocritical here, lead by example.
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Old 04-17-2008, 02:26 PM   #57
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I don't really care either way but thats a ********* argument and I think you know it. I have yet to see anyone force feeding a stranger seafood at red lobster or elsewhere.
"Some individuals can be sensitive to the airborne fumes produced by cooking fish. These people can also have an allergic reaction triggered by simply walking through a fish market. Individuals who are this sensitive should be very careful about dining in restaurants or unfamiliar places. Sensitive individuals can also receive an allergic reaction from skin contact with fish and should avoid handling seafood."

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Old 04-17-2008, 02:29 PM   #58
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If I can smell it, I'm breathing it
Like I said before, let's ban charcoal grills in the tailgating lots. That isn't good to breathe in either. Where is the outcry for that? Or let's not allow cars in the tailgating lots as the exhaust can cause cancer too.
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Old 04-17-2008, 02:30 PM   #59
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I agree that indoors, especially in bars, smoking is often undesirable. I used to bartend, and my clothes would smell horrible after a night of bartending. However, I also smoked. Regardless, I understood that I worked at a bar, and that was something that just went along with the territory, because people smoke at bars. Me complaining would be like a lifeguard complaining about sunburn.

I believe there's a market for bars as they now exist and smoke-free bars, as many people seem to have a problem with smoky bars. It's too bad business owners won't even have a choice in the matter, and this is happening all over the country and is only going to spread.

The open-air thing on campus is ridiculous, and the whole "if I can smell it I'm breathing and I'm getting cancer so nobody should be able to smoke anywhere" is a huge exaggeration, and honestly, whiny.

Think of things that you consume/breathe/walk by every day that are probably not good for you. Should we all:
-Stop driving and using all fossil fuels, because you can smell pollution
-Never walk in the grass barefoot, because of *gasp* chemicals

Obviously, smoking is not good for you. But does it really bother you THAT much?
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Old 04-17-2008, 02:30 PM   #60
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Cell phones may be dangerous to our health. Time to ban those too... anyone against the right to smoke here should lead by example and toss their cell phones. Don't be hypocritical here, lead by example.

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