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05-08-2008, 05:35 PM
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Credits: 1,005,237 | Re: Big 12 revenue rankings from Omaha World Herald | | Originally Posted by cy1225 Published Friday April 25, 2008
Big 12 revenue FY 2006-07, in millions1. Texas $101.52. Nebraska $71.13. Oklahoma $69.54. Texas A&M $69.45. Kansas $65.26. Texas Tech $53.67. Missouri $48.68. Kansas State $48.39. Oklahoma State $46.710. Colorado $42.411. Baylor $40.512. Iowa State $36.9
And yet we still hear: "But I want my $100 season football tickets...whine whine whine."
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05-08-2008, 05:43 PM
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Credits: 1,107,823 NFL: Bears MLB: Cubs | Re: Big 12 revenue rankings from Omaha World Herald | | Originally Posted by The_Architect I hear you on the success, BUT there is no way they are making money on WBB and baseball. Maybe it's the bowl revenue and I guess the difference between their football attendance and ours.(I dont know what that is). Even if they're breaking even elsewhere, that means everything from football is profit... I guess that's where i was going with those examples.
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05-08-2008, 05:46 PM
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#18 | | Walk On
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Credits: 339,952 NFL: Colts MLB: Reds | Re: Big 12 revenue rankings from Omaha World Herald | | Originally Posted by isuarch80 Wasn't that two years ago when they played Texas and he blamed the officiating and the conf because of $$$... It has been the past two seasons. I think it really came out during that Texas game and has been around in every KU football press conference ever since.
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05-08-2008, 05:48 PM
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#19 | | Walk On
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Credits: 1,131 Year: 1993 | Re: Big 12 revenue rankings from Omaha World Herald | | Originally Posted by Kyle Probably not. Football is by far the biggest revenue producer, followed by mens basketball. Women's basketball can make some money and probably does at ISU, but I'm betting most other sports lose money.
This article was part of a larger story on the Nebraska Athletic Department under the leadership of Osborne, or as the locals here in Omaha refer to him as GOD.
Football is the only sport that generates profit for Nebraska. Their men's basketball would too if they allocated TV money from the conference for the specific sport rather than to a general fund. They have several sports with no revenue and up wards of $ 1 million in expenses.
Iowa State is no different. Football and Men's Basketball feed the rest of the Title IX programs. If memory serves me UConn is the only WBB program in the country that generates profit - not even Tenn turns a profit on WBB.
This should answer some of the critics to Pollard's push with season Football tickets.
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05-08-2008, 05:50 PM
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Credits: 630,820 Year: 2002 Degree: BS Psychology NFL: Bears NBA: Celtics MLB: Nationals | Re: Big 12 revenue rankings from Omaha World Herald | | Originally Posted by becrisgreg This article was part of a larger story on the Nebraska Athletic Department under the leadership of Osborne, or as the locals here in Omaha refer to him as GOD.
Football is the only sport that generates profit for Nebraska. Their men's basketball would too if they allocated TV money from the conference for the specific sport rather than to a general fund. They have several sports with no revenue and up wards of $ 1 million in expenses.
Iowa State is no different. Football and Men's Basketball feed the rest of the Title IX programs. If memory serves me UConn is the only WBB program in the country that generates profit - not even Tenn turns a profit on WBB.
This should answer some of the critics to Pollard's push with season Football tickets. How does Nebraska baseball not make at least a little money? They must have a terrible lease at Haymarket Park, they get abour 7k a game and have at least 15 games a year on National TV.
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05-08-2008, 05:57 PM
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I looked this up a few days ago - ISU offers more varsity sports than six other teams in the Big 12 (Tech, Baylor, KSU, Colorado, OSU and KU). We offer fewer varsity sports than Texas, OU, NU, A&M and Missouri. We also currently offer the minimum number of major men's sports required to maintain membership in the conference. The major sports are those with >50% participation.
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05-08-2008, 05:59 PM
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Credits: 1,363,679 Year: 2007 NFL: Lions MLB: Cardinals | Re: Big 12 revenue rankings from Omaha World Herald | | Originally Posted by isuarch80 Wasn't that two years ago when they played Texas and he blamed the officiating and the conf because of $$$... Yes. He then ate all the reporters in the news room.
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05-08-2008, 05:59 PM
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#23 | | Walk On
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Credits: 1,131 Year: 1993 | Re: Big 12 revenue rankings from Omaha World Herald | | Originally Posted by cybsball20 How does Nebraska baseball not make at least a little money? They must have a terrible lease at Haymarket Park, they get abour 7k a game and have at least 15 games a year on National TV. Omaha.com Sports Section
UNL baseball lost a little over $400k on 1.1 million in revenue.
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05-08-2008, 06:03 PM
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They need to up the football ticket price for hawk fans to like $5,000. They will whine no matter what, so what the heck.
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05-08-2008, 06:04 PM
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Credits: 630,820 Year: 2002 Degree: BS Psychology NFL: Bears NBA: Celtics MLB: Nationals | Re: Big 12 revenue rankings from Omaha World Herald | | Originally Posted by becrisgreg Right after I typed that I remembered how much their coaches are making and it makes sense. They still must have a bad lease though to lose that much on 1.1 Mil.
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05-08-2008, 06:49 PM
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Credits: 666,160 | Re: Big 12 revenue rankings from Omaha World Herald | | Originally Posted by becrisgreg If memory serves me UConn is the only WBB program in the country that generates profit - not even Tenn turns a profit on WBB. Interesting. Didn't we have an average attendance of like 7,000 for the women's games? I was thinking that would generate at least a little revenue, but if I do the math it make a bit more sense.
If you assume that attendance for the 20 home games averaged 7,000 and that the ticket price average was about $10 then ISU WBB would have gross revenues of about 1.4 million. I'm guessing that goes fast with coaches salaries, scholarships, travel expenses, and other miscellaneous expenses. Obviously there's some other revenue (such as concessions and TV) and some other expenses (such as staffing and advertising) but I doubt those numbers are especially huge.
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05-08-2008, 07:51 PM
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Ticket revenue isn't going to account for the difference between us and them. It is donations and other sources. We could raise our ticket prices to $600 for season tickets, sell 50,000 of them, and that is still less than half of NU's athletics budget for a year.
I remember seeing this article. Although we were last in resources, our results were higher along with Texas Tech and at least another. Teams like OKState, Texas A&M, Missouri, and maybe another finished lower.
More money isn't going to hurt, but it isn't what is going to make us contend for championships. Our goal for raising money is more about us portraying the image that we still belong in a power conference more than anything. Championships will come and go as the stars align. Honestly, I don't think ISU can hope to achieve higher than an 8th ranking financially in the conference, but I could be (and hope) wrong.
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05-08-2008, 09:33 PM
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Credits: 1,057,245 | Re: Big 12 revenue rankings from Omaha World Herald | | Originally Posted by everyyard And yet we still hear: "But I want my $100 season football tickets...whine whine whine." There is virtually no correlation between ticket prices and revenue. In 2008 we will have the highest priced tickets in the Big 12 and we will still be last or next-to-last in total athletic revenue.
2008 Football Season Ticket Prices (disregarding end zone or standing-room-only tickets):
School # of home games Season Price Price per game
Iowa State 6 $350 $58.33
Texas A&M 7 $399 $57.00
Texas 7 $385 $55.00
Texas Tech 7 $350 $50.00
Missouri 6 $280 $46.67
Nebraska 8 $364 $45.50 (sold out)
Kansas 7 $300 $42.86
Kansas State 7 $300 $42.86
Oklahoma State 7 $294 $42.00
Colorado 6 $245 $40.83
Baylor 7 $265 $37.86
Oklahoma 6 n/a (sold out)
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05-08-2008, 09:48 PM
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no post........ I read through it a little wrong, and posted something incorrectly! My bad!
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05-08-2008, 09:55 PM
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Credits: 971,846 | Re: Big 12 revenue rankings from Omaha World Herald | | Originally Posted by MontyBurns There is virtually no correlation between ticket prices and revenue. In 2008 we will have the highest priced tickets in the Big 12 and we will still be last or next-to-last in total athletic revenue.
2008 Football Season Ticket Prices (disregarding end zone or standing-room-only tickets):
School # of home games Season Price Price per game
Iowa State 6 $350 $58.33
Texas A&M 7 $399 $57.00
Texas 7 $385 $55.00
Texas Tech 7 $350 $50.00
Missouri 6 $280 $46.67
Nebraska 8 $364 $45.50 (sold out)
Kansas 7 $300 $42.86
Kansas State 7 $300 $42.86
Oklahoma State 7 $294 $42.00
Colorado 6 $245 $40.83
Baylor 7 $265 $37.86
Oklahoma 6 n/a (sold out) We may have the highest ticket price based on face value, but Texas, Texas A&M, Nebraska etc. require huge donations in order to buy tickets. Once this amount is factored into the equation, ISU moves down the list.
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