America's Best Colleges...Forbes Magazine

pujolsman · 08-16-2008, 08:38 PM

I think Forbes is anti ag and engineering. Either that or they put the schools in reverse order.

ISUKyro · 08-16-2008, 08:39 PM

Originally Posted by aeroclone08

As soon as I read that they lost all credibility with me. Another 25% comes from how many grads pay to have their names listed in Who's Who in America.

Yep, pure trash there. They could at least try to do their own research instead of pick numbers out of trash websites that most people only go to when they have a complaint.

BigCycloneFan · 08-16-2008, 08:40 PM

It is all very suspect. At least they owned up to the fact that large public schools were not rated well. When you see oustanding educational institutions like Washington University (in St Louis) ranked at 146. Wash U would blow away more that 100 schools in front of it for quality of education (both undergrad and graduate) as well as for accomplishments.

Looks like a faulty or skewed rating system to me.

Cyclone62 · 08-16-2008, 08:46 PM

Who's Who is the worst thing to ever be designed.

I only say this because I had to print, punch, bind, laminate 1,200 books in 4 days. ******* who's who.

ajk4st8 · 08-16-2008, 08:46 PM

Wartburg in the top 430!

cloneaholic · 08-16-2008, 08:49 PM

Trust me, the university is inundated with surveys from all kinds of publications. Sometimes the surveys don't get filled out in time or the don't get filled out at all. I'm pretty sure that something like this has happened with regard to the Forbes survey.

On a similar note, the surveys are frequently very flawed. Recently, ISU received a very low rating from a magazine for campus safety. Part of the reason was because we don't have carbon monoxide detectors in our residence halls. The reason we don't have these detectors is because our halls are steam heated. However, that was ignored by the magazine.

These "Best Colleges in America" ratings are done by many publications to simply increase their sales. They're about as far from being scientifically sound as they could possibly be.

Wesley · 08-16-2008, 08:49 PM

Whos's Who - anyone can buy their way in.

iastate08 · 08-16-2008, 08:51 PM

Originally Posted by loki8838

Forbes also listed Kevin McHale as the best General Manager in all of the 4 major professional sports.

Read it here: Best General Managers In Sports - Forbes.com

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA. Sorry as a t-wolves fan who has seen the absolute destruction of a once promising franchise and the complete mis-use of one of the best players of all time, I pretty much crapped myself reading Kevin as number 1. Maybe number one when it comes to post moves, but not being a GM lol.

cycloneML · 08-16-2008, 09:35 PM

Originally Posted by Wesley

We beat Toledo.

Actually, we had them beat...we were up by 11 with 5 minutes left and blew it. Check it in the final publication...

CyAggie · 08-16-2008, 09:56 PM

Based on US News, and others, we are not as great as we think we are.

We are one of the top 100 public universities (86th).
Our Ag College is ranked 2nd, Business 83rd, Chemical 23rd, and Engineering 37th.

Based on engineering we are probably ranked 3rd or 4th in the B12.

However, if we were in the B10, we would be ranked only average (5th or 6th out the B10 schools for Engineering rankings.

This is only one report, but I have seen others that are similar.

Truth be told, we have good programs, but not as good as we like to think they are.

Clone9 · 08-16-2008, 09:57 PM

This is actually offensive.

I pity anyone who takes financial advice from a publication that ranks Iowa State dead last (basically) and Kevin McHale as the best.

Clone9 · 08-16-2008, 09:59 PM

Originally Posted by CyAggie

Based on US News, and others, we are not as great as we think we are.

We are one of the top 100 public universities (86th).
Our Ag College is ranked 2nd, Business 83rd, Chemical 23rd, and Engineering 37th.

Based on engineering we are probably ranked 3rd or 4th in the B12.

However, if we were in the B10, we would be ranked only average (5th or 6th out the B10 schools for Engineering rankings.

This is only one report, but I have seen others that are similar.

Truth be told, we have good programs, but not as good as we like to think they are.

These rankings (US News) are about what I knew and expected though. I know we're not an "elite" academic institution, and I realize that many Big 10 schools probably are, but there is NO FREAKING WAY that we are nearly dead last of all schools.

ajk4st8 · 08-16-2008, 10:00 PM

Originally Posted by CyAggie

Based on US News, and others, we are not as great as we think we are.

We are one of the top 100 public universities (86th).
Our Ag College is ranked 2nd, Business 83rd, Chemical 23rd, and Engineering 37th.

Based on engineering we are probably ranked 3rd or 4th in the B12.

However, if we were in the B10, we would be ranked only average (5th or 6th out the B10 schools for Engineering rankings.

This is only one report, but I have seen others that are similar.

Truth be told, we have good programs, but not as good as we like to think they are.

I never went to ISU, but those rankings seem pretty darn good to me

CyAggie · 08-16-2008, 10:03 PM

Did not say they were bad, and the other study is junk.

However, sometimes we think we are higher quality than we may really be.

isucyclone4 · 08-16-2008, 10:35 PM

Originally Posted by EggMcClone

Yeah, someone sent that to me earlier in the week and I couldn't believe it. I have no idea what they used for their criteria but something in there is really, really screwing ISU. Here are the Iowa colleges in order:
71 Cornell
90 Clarke
107 Grinnell
182 Coe
188 Luther
211 Northwestern
241 Simpson
331 UofI
374 Dordt
430 Wartburg
472 UNI
486 Drake
554 Central
563 ISU
Umm, ok.

all credibility out the door on this one...ratemyprofessors.com huh? I wouldn't get too worried about that write up.