Why the different cardinal colors for ISU teams?

**tim_redd** · 11-12-2008, 03:03 PM

Hadn't seen this posted yet.

Pollard Letter Regarding Athletics Colors - Iowa State University Athletics Official Web Site - www.CYCLONES.com - Iowa State Cyclones Sports

**aeroclone** · 11-12-2008, 03:07 PM

Originally Posted by tim_redd

Hadn't seen this posted yet.

Pollard Letter Regarding Athletics Colors - Iowa State University Athletics Official Web Site - www.CYCLONES.com - Iowa State Cyclones Sports

Strange how things like this happen. Topics heat up on this board and then mysteriously things happen in the athletics department. It makes me think that we have a plant among us!

I wonder who here is actually Pollard...... Aclone I'm looking in your general direction!

**Nedrick** · 11-12-2008, 03:15 PM

Originally Posted by tim_redd

Hadn't seen this posted yet.

Pollard Letter Regarding Athletics Colors - Iowa State University Athletics Official Web Site - www.CYCLONES.com - Iowa State Cyclones Sports

This was just emailed to me in form of a letter. Answers a lot of questions I'd had...

**jbhtexas** · 11-12-2008, 03:15 PM

Originally Posted by Cloned4Life

It sucks, its B.S., and I don't understand AT ALL how Nike can make uniforms for the same school in one color in one sport and another color in another sport, regardless of "contracts." It's ridiculous.

Precisely.

Why does ISU have to buy all uniforms from Nike? Is Nike the only company in the world who makes uniforms? If Nike can't make the other uniforms in the colors ISU wants, then maybe ISU needs to buy those uniforms from somebody who will. I thought the customer is always right???

**cybsball20** · 11-12-2008, 03:16 PM

Originally Posted by jbhtexas

Precisely.

Why does ISU have to buy all uniforms from Nike? Is Nike the only company in the world who makes uniforms? If Nike can't make the other uniforms in the colors ISU wants, then maybe ISU needs to buy those uniforms from somebody who will. I thought the customer always comes first???

Because Nike pays us to wear thier uniforms... THEY are the customer...

**jbhtexas** · 11-12-2008, 03:23 PM

Originally Posted by cybsball20

Because Nike pays us to wear thier uniforms... THEY are the customer...

From ADJP's letter...

The purpose of this letter is to share several updates on the transition. Nike, our equipment provider, has designated the football and men’s and women’s track programs in their “elite” uniform division which means those sport’s uniforms are custom made in the colors we want (for example, what is being worn by the football team this season).

ISU needs uniforms.
Nike provides uniforms.
That makes ISU the "customer", and Nike the "vendor".

Whether or not ISU is a "paying" customer is another story...

My sweetie bought me a cardinal I-State Nike shirt for my birthday last month. From what I can tell, the color is perfect. It's not OU crimson, or aTm maroon (both of which are in plentiful supply around here), or McDonald's red, or NU red, but ISU cardinal. How hard can it be to get the correct color for the other uni's? As another poster pointed out, this generic color thing for the non "elite" sports is stupidity that shouldn't be tolerated.

**cybsball20** · 11-12-2008, 03:29 PM

Originally Posted by jbhtexas

ISU needs uniforms.
Nike provides uniforms.
That makes ISU the "customer", and Nike the "vendor".

Whether or not ISU is a "paying" customer is another story...

We are a source of advertising for Nike. They get to choose how much effort they want to put in their advertising. They pay us...

**Tornado man** · 11-12-2008, 03:34 PM

Originally Posted by jbhtexas

From ADJP's letter...

ISU needs uniforms.
Nike provides uniforms.
That makes ISU the "customer", and Nike the "vendor".

Whether or not ISU is a "paying" customer is another story...

Well, I'm confused, after reading Jamie's letter, for uniforms other than football and track, why we have to order the "cardinal" color. It's so dark. Not Iowa State at all. Why don't we just order a Nike shade of red that's brighter???

**jaretac** · 11-12-2008, 03:58 PM

Why isn't anyone asking the important question, why track intead of basketball?

**Ames** · 11-12-2008, 04:06 PM

Originally Posted by jbhtexas

From ADJP's letter...

ISU needs uniforms.
Nike provides uniforms.
That makes ISU the "customer", and Nike the "vendor".

Whether or not ISU is a "paying" customer is another story...

I'd say at the point where ISU says we will wear nothing but Nike, ISU receives money, and our teams become walking Nike ad spots then ISU is the vendor. ISU offers the product of advertising.

**cybsball20** · 11-12-2008, 04:07 PM

Originally Posted by Ames

I'd say at the point where ISU says we will wear nothing but Nike, ISU receives money, and our teams become walking Nike ad spots then ISU is the vendor. ISU offers the product of advertising.

Follow the money and it tells you who the customer is...

Nike ---> $$$$---> ISU

**jbhtexas** · 11-12-2008, 04:09 PM

Originally Posted by cybsball20

Follow the money and it tells you who the customer is...

Nike ---> $$$$---> ISU

Seems like there might have been better choices than ISU Track for optimizing their ad dollars...

**theshadow** · 11-12-2008, 04:14 PM

Originally Posted by jaretac

Why isn't anyone asking the important question, why track intead of basketball?

Because Bill Bergan was a shrewd businessman way back in the day.

**67CY** · 11-12-2008, 04:25 PM

I can't believe that JP allowed this to happen. (keep in mind he wanted the football team to wear white helmets) He states that in the interim we have to accept this. I wonder how long the interim is. Having all of these different shades of cardinal makes us look like a second rate athletic dept that gets our uniforms at a close out sale. Not a very good way to improve ISU's image.

**Tornado man** · 11-16-2008, 03:37 PM

At an ISU Foundation reception prior to the game last night - there must have been 15 different shades of red/maroon in the room, all on apparel with the the I-State logo. I was almost ready to take a group picture.