My View Of Pollard

**MontyBurns** · 12-27-2008, 11:56 AM

Originally Posted by CycloneWanderer

Completely false. Do your homework and stop looking at only W's and L's. Things have to be in shape before those come along. Also, stop looking at only MBB and FB's W's and L's.

Completely true, dude. It's time to quit "waiting for things to be in shape". Pollard has been here for four years now. And quit searching for moral victories. What matters is results.

**IlliCy** · 12-27-2008, 12:00 PM

We must not forget that we hired an administrative AD from Wisconsin. For us to think he actually would have the experience to hit homeruns on all coaching hires from the get go would be foolish. I am not a huge fan of his due to this. But as others have noted, tha admin side of things are going along very well (fund raising, facilities, etc.) I know that many do not want to give him anymore time, but that is exactly what he needs on the program side. At this point, who else would take the role anyhow???

Okay, let me have it...

**chadm** · 12-27-2008, 12:03 PM

Originally Posted by MontyBurns

Completely true, dude. It's time to quit "waiting for things to be in shape". Pollard has been here for four years now. And quit searching for moral victories. What matters is results.

Three years, not four. Sept 2005

**Tornado man** · 12-27-2008, 12:08 PM

Originally Posted by IlliCy

At this point, who else would take the role anyhow??? Okay, let me have it...

I don't agree with your last point above - this is a very attractive job for any up-and-comer AD, just for our very large fan base. Jamie could have gone to many other schools for his first AD job, and would have had to work much harder to drum up enthusiasm and ticket sales. Cyclone fans just need hope to show up.

**benjay** · 12-27-2008, 12:35 PM

Originally Posted by Go2Guy

1. You should have sat in my section at the UNLV game this year. Some big donors wanted JP's head.

2. I've been an ISU fan since 1975 - Jamie has taken us to places we've been before, and I really have my doubts he will take us where we want to go.

Can't make everyone happy. I like the fact that we have an AD willing to take chances. And judging by the budget increases, there are more "big donors" who agree with what JP's doing than not.

**CyValley** · 12-27-2008, 12:51 PM

Originally Posted by isuforlife

Sorry but this time thing is getting old!

Perseverance, maybe not a precise synonym for "time", but the two are related.

You think we Cyclone fans have alternatives to patience, to perseverance? You believe we can hire coaches who can magically turn the league's weakest athletics department into an overnight winner?

I'll wager that most fans here understand there is only one way ISU can build its athletics programs -- from the ground up. Over time.

Cyclone fans must be strong and rugged; they must never say die. They must fight for success over the long haul. Success must be earned.

The alternative is a fool's paradise.

**jumbopackage** · 12-27-2008, 01:06 PM

Originally Posted by CYKOFAN

Pretty much agree with you. I think it could be argued that DMac had peaked and the program was heading down, with enthusiasm dying. No arguing that his overall conference winning percentage in the 28% range wasn't cutting it. Morgan should have been given a 4th year as imo the whole team would have returned had it not been clear that JP was trying to get rid of him. JP has no background in football or basketball, so needs a lot of help in evaluating coaches. I was shocked when I heard he had offered Chiz two more years a few weeks ago. But I don't doubt his sincerity in loving ISU, and I think he may have got it right with the Rhodes hire (time will tell).

That's basically a "recruiting extension". It's amazingly common. It basically means that we weren't going to fire him this year so he has a leg to stand on when he's out recruiting.

**IlliCy** · 12-27-2008, 03:44 PM

Originally Posted by Tornado man

I don't agree with your last point above - this is a very attractive job for any up-and-comer AD, just for our very large fan base. Jamie could have gone to many other schools for his first AD job, and would have had to work much harder to drum up enthusiasm and ticket sales. Cyclone fans just need hope to show up.

You are right, that is exactly why he was so excited to come to ISU. He had one less thing to worry about. You hit the nail on the head with your hope comment. A little bit goes a long way with Clone fans.

**CyDude16** · 12-27-2008, 03:50 PM

I agree with all your points, except E. GMac was a great hire at the time, he was a hot coaching hire, disagree all you want. But look at the facts, he had risen the UNI program and taken them to the tourney. C****k was a great hire, I bet no one saw what kind of snake he really was. He was coordinator who was heavily wanted. I really don't get why people bash Pollard for his hiring. JP has only so much control, and he has my full support. He has done a lot of great things for us, and I'm really excited for the future.