Gary Clarke Photos

**Stewo** · 12-30-2008, 12:14 PM

Originally Posted by psychlone99

Until, what, halfway through the season?

That's not the point.

**theshadow** · 12-30-2008, 12:14 PM

Originally Posted by jl112481

On the contrary. I had seats about 7 rows up from that pie line and I could tell you 100% that it was a touchdown. My roommates and I watched Sportscenter for 3 hours straight and every time they showed the replay there was no doubt that Seneca made it (even the anchors on Sportscenter mentioned that had there been instant replay the game would likely have gone into overtime (PAT withstanding)).

In that case, I go to criteria #2: We are Iowa State. The call on the field stands.

**CyGuy33** · 12-30-2008, 12:15 PM

That's my boy

**jl112481** · 12-30-2008, 12:16 PM

Originally Posted by Knownothing

One of four games that kill all Iowa State fans.

1. Seneca was in against Florida State
2. Alabama field goal was good
3. Kansas 3 pointer on a 2 shot foul and Stinson not knocking the ball out of bounds.
4. Double foul. Do I need to tell you what that one was?

5. Tinsley can't make a layup

**wartknight** · 12-30-2008, 12:20 PM

OK. To play a little devil's advocate here-
Let me preface this by saying I was playing in a CFB game that night and was in the training room injured for quite a while after the game and never saw it. Up until this point I just believed everything I heard.
-Everything hinges upon whether or not his left foot is out of bounds, and it actually looks like it is in this photo. I believe the college rule is like every other level and unless the ball broke the pylon before his foot went OOB, then the ruling is correct and the ball should be spotted short of the goalline.

**jl112481** · 12-30-2008, 12:23 PM

Originally Posted by theshadow

In that case, I go to criteria #2: We are Iowa State. The call on the field stands.

The accuracy of that statement almost makes me laugh...almost.

**jperickson23** · 12-30-2008, 12:24 PM

Originally Posted by jl112481

5. Tinsley can't make a layup

6. Cameron Dollar pushing off on Holloway.
7. Intercepted fade route pass against a very strong wind.

I'm sure there's more. Ok now I'm depressed.

**Cardinal&Gold11** · 12-30-2008, 12:25 PM

missed field goal against kansas

**dustinal** · 12-30-2008, 12:26 PM

Originally Posted by wartknight

OK. To play a little devil's advocate here-
Let me preface this by saying I was playing in a CFB game that night and was in the training room injured for quite a while after the game and never saw it. Up until this point I just believed everything I heard.
-Everything hinges upon whether or not his left foot is out of bounds, and it actually looks like it is in this photo. I believe the college rule is like every other level and unless the ball broke the pylon before his foot went OOB, then the ruling is correct and the ball should be spotted short of the goalline.

The heel of his foot is up in that shot. Only his toes are on the ground, and to me it looks like he could be inbounds.

I will admit that most replay officials probably wouldn't consider this shot conclusive evidence to overturn the call, though.

**ISUFan22** · 12-30-2008, 12:32 PM

Foot looks in bounds to me. It was the first thing my eyes went to when looking at this shot.

We were on that side of the field, in the front row, literally on the goal line. I'm not one of these types that holds onto these things for years and years. It's over and done.

But, that was a touchdown - period.

**CarolinaCy** · 12-30-2008, 12:38 PM

I seem to remember one of the initial reasonings for him being ruled out of bounds was that the ball was in his right hand when he left his feet, and therefore over the sideline and out of bounds. This picture clearly shows that the ball is already extended toward the pylon well before he went airborne.

I think you could argue either way that his foot is in bounds or out of bounds. My take is this: if the call is doubtful, why not reward the kid for a stellar effort? If he's not obviously out of bounds, give him the TD. Just my $0.02

Anyone have a video of this entire run? Wasn't it like a 25-yarder or something?

**Ficklone02** · 12-30-2008, 12:40 PM

I don't mean to hurt Gary's sales by saying this.....but why would any cyclone fan want that picture up on the wall?! I would get po'd every time I look up and see that pic!

**tec71** · 12-30-2008, 12:48 PM

I want it on my wall. It signifies all that it is to be a true cyclone fan. To endure decades of getting pounded to get to that point only to be ruled out of bounds.