So let me get this straight, you don't think Pollard has fulfilled his duty in improving facilities?Quote:
Originally Posted by CyBobby
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So let me get this straight, you don't think Pollard has fulfilled his duty in improving facilities?Quote:
Originally Posted by CyBobby
Oh yeah, paint and light bulbs. Woohoo.Quote:
Originally Posted by jaretac
You are 100% correct. When Jamie arrived he did a great job of selling. He created excitement among fans that we were going to take -- as he called it -- "the next big step". He raised ticket prices and donations and we Cyclone fans paid money like we've never paid before. Now he's been here 3 years -- the time for selling is over and it's time for delivery. Unfortunately it is looking like "the next big step" was backwards.Quote:
Originally Posted by CyBobby
Okay, I'm not sure why your so disappointed in what JP has done with facilities, I can understand being disappointed in the wins/loss record, but facilities?Quote:
Originally Posted by MontyBurns
Let's give you a reality check, Original Facility Master Plan compared to what has happened:
Football Stadium Suites/Club/Gates
- Originally planned for Fall 2008, $10 million
- Completed Fall 2008, $19 million
=Completed on time, $9 million over original plan
Basketball Practice Facility
- Originally planned for Fall 2009, $25 million
- Completed Fall 2009, 8 million
=Completed on time, $17 million less than originally planned
Hilton Renovations
- Originally planned for Fall 2010, $35 million
- Not completed
=Not originally planned to be completed for another year
Jack Trice South End Zone project
- Originally panned for Fall 2010 to include east side concessions, $25 million
- East side concession completed Fall 2009, $11 million
- No known timeline for South End Zone, $55 million
=Partially completed a year ahead of schedule, no timeline for finishing, total project cost is $41 million over original plan
Student Recreation Center
- Originally no timeline, unknown cost
- Project will be completed Fall 2011, $52.8 million
=Completed way ahead of what was originally thought
Hilton Atrium/Office/Gateway Complex
- Originally no timeline, unknown cost
- No known timeline, unknown cost
=No timeline, no known cost
All project have been completed on or ahead of schedule so far.
Original plans cost to date: $35 million
Current cost to date: $38 million
Recreation Center
Master Plan
Now, come next fall, you may have more of an argument. JP originally planned for $60 million in improvements for 2010, which to do those same improvements will now cost $90 million. Until then, you can't criticize him for not completing facilities that wasn't planned to be completed yet. He has done everything, to date, that he promised. Remember, we didn't hear the announcement for the current projects until late last year.
I imagine it is pretty hard for some people to totally grasp the POOR situation ISU was in before JP got here and it will take time to overcome. Unfortunately, some people feel they are entitled to instant benefits without the hard work and fully understanding of the situation. Same group thinks the are entitled to new cars and homes with out the effort.e.g. entitled to stay up with the Jones. Perhaps JP can start a food stamp and FEMA program for some of you, I'd bet you would be happier then, but then again, probabaly not.Quote:
Originally Posted by MontyBurns
After a season of going to men's and women's basketball games, plus wrestling, I am not impressed with the athletic department's takeover of Hilton. Concessions had crappy service and higher prices. Centerplate sucks. We know that from football.Quote:
Originally Posted by jaretac
Go back to the management company, who knew how to run things.
I have to agree with that and believe me, it would make my life easier if you would let JP know that. The AD is not going to let go of Hilton, but they can make changes. I'm very unimpressed with the management of Hilton. They are unorganized and unable to manage people or a sports facility, and worst of all, they are unwilling to accept suggestions from anyone.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tornado man
People who have worked at Hilton for decades have as much seniority as people who have worked there for days. Suggestions are completely ignored and valuable employees are leaving.
Of course, the coaches that he had left the programs in terrible shape, and it takes time to recover.Quote:
Originally Posted by madcityCY
I clicked them all, because I think he will be well remembered in the long run for each of these.
I am crafting a letter to JP right now.Quote:
Originally Posted by jaretac
They must have lost a ton of money on concessions this year. People in my sections gave up going there at halftimes/intermissions because of the low staffing = long waits.
LOTS of $$$ lost...
I can only imagine. A couple of times, I chose not to get anything, even though that was my supper (We go to the games right after I wake up), because they were so terribly slow at getting orders filled ahead of us. The coupon/ticket packages were a good marketing idea, but the concessionaires had no idea what to do with them. That could be improved.Quote:
Originally Posted by jaretac
And a staffer for concessions likely isn't getting paid a lot. My guess is $8/hr tops. Two customers going through covers that plus materials, and halftime brings a lot more than two customers.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tornado man
I really doubt that. They are definitely waiting on the lead donor, but IMO that has more to do with the economy than wins and losses. IMO the donation was helped by bringing in Rhoads and losing Chizik. The coaches are showing recruits plans of the S. Endzone. Plus, the engineers have already put in much planning on fitting that work in with the current work. I honestly believe that the donation will be made this summer/fall and work will start after this coming season is over.Quote:
Originally Posted by kingcy
Amazing to me that people really are complaining about concessions at Hilton. They're not bad.
That donation would be a great thing!Quote:
Originally Posted by bmuff
We were spoiled by the concessions before. They used to be excellent. They got better as the season went on, but they started really badly.
Not sure about concessions because I think they get paid through a separate company, but Hilton pays their part time staff by contract, per event. It's not great, but actually better now than it was before the athletic department took over. Sense it is by contract, if the event goes longer than expected, we make less an hour than if the event is shorter than expected. Pay is usually around $9-10 an hour, but you get paid to see most of the games.Quote:
Originally Posted by CycloneErik
I was not impressed with management from the start, but I was willing to give them time to figure things out. I know whenever I take over management somewhere, it takes me some time to get into the swing of things, but I'm always looking for helpful suggestions from my employees and patrons alike. I've made suggestions several times to Hilton management (was in no way annoying about it), and only once did I even receive a reply (it simply said no, didn't even explain why).
We're paying more money to watch losing teams in better facilities than we had when we were winning.
LOL, kinda like my broke neighbor. Outside today he's polishing up his nice shinny rims on a '85 beat to hell and back S-10. Nothing like an 85 with two-tone all over it, but the rims look good!Quote:
Originally Posted by CyCy