Why have all these coaches left?

[bostrem00]

A. Better opportunities
B. More Money
C. The AD
D. All of the above

Frankly, I was overjoyed that Chizik was leaving town, but if Cael left because of the money- I'd do the same thing if the opportunity presented itself.

[WalkingCY]

B.

There shouldn't be anything better than coaching at Iowa State. The simple life, nice people, beautiful campus, loyal fans....great team colors.....why would you leave?

[MontyBurns]

You reap what you sow. Jamie came in and in two years fired ten coaching staffs. Not ten coaches, ten staffs. That is a lot of people and families -- and outside of the football staff and the million bucks he paid to Wayne Morgan, most of them do not have large incomes and most of them only have year-to-year contracts with no provision for severance pay. Especially the assistants. The ISU athletic coaching staff is a pretty small group, and when a new boss comes in and changes dozens and dozens of people's lives, uproots families, makes kids leave schools and move, etc., what happens to the ones who get left behind? The same thing that happens when an ax man appears and guts any business or other organization. They don't know who is next, they worry if one bad season will be the end of them, and they end up looking for a better workplace.

For one, I cannot stand the way Pollard appears to be shocked and hurt whenever a coach quits on him. After he just fired dozens of their colleagues, he's either acting or a fool if he thinks it doesn't work both ways. We'd just better hope that Bill Fennelly and Christy Johnson don't tell him they're outta here one of these days. I never expected them too, but after this week I won't be surprised if it happens, either.

[cyfan964]

You reap what you sow. Jamie came in and in two years fired ten coaching staffs. Not ten coaches, ten staffs. That is a lot of people and families -- and outside of the football staff and the million bucks he paid to Wayne Morgan, most of them do not have large incomes and most of them only have year-to-year contracts with no provision for severance pay. Especially the assistants. The ISU athletic coaching staff is a pretty small group, and when a new boss comes in and changes dozens and dozens of people's lives, uproots families, makes kids leave schools and move, etc., what happens to the ones who get left behind? The same thing that happens when an ax man appears and guts any business or other organization. They don't know who is next, they worry if one bad season will be the end of them, and they end up looking for a better workplace.

For one, I cannot stand the way Pollard appears to be shocked and hurt whenever a coach quits on him. After he just fired dozens of their colleagues, he's either acting or a fool if he thinks it doesn't work both ways. We'd just better hope that Bill Fennelly and Christy Johnson don't tell him they're outta here one of these days. I never expected them too, but after this week I won't be surprised if it happens, either.

uggghhhhhh....

[jahfg]

You reap what you sow. Jamie came in and in two years fired ten coaching staffs. Not ten coaches, ten staffs. That is a lot of people and families -- and outside of the football staff and the million bucks he paid to Wayne Morgan, most of them do not have large incomes and most of them only have year-to-year contracts with no provision for severance pay. Especially the assistants. The ISU athletic coaching staff is a pretty small group, and when a new boss comes in and changes dozens and dozens of people's lives, uproots families, makes kids leave schools and move, etc., what happens to the ones who get left behind? The same thing that happens when an ax man appears and guts any business or other organization. They don't know who is next, they worry if one bad season will be the end of them, and they end up looking for a better workplace.

For one, I cannot stand the way Pollard appears to be shocked and hurt whenever a coach quits on him. After he just fired dozens of their colleagues, he's either acting or a fool if he thinks it doesn't work both ways. We'd just better hope that Bill Fennelly and Christy Johnson don't tell him they're outta here one of these days. I never expected them too, but after this week I won't be surprised if it happens, either.

College athletics is more of a business than it ever has been. Yeah, it sucks that stuff has to happen, but that is the risk you take when you decide to make coaching a profession. I think any coach that is being paid enough to make a living (and often times a very good one) would tell you they understand.

[LeSchmick]

B.

There shouldn't be anything better than coaching at Iowa State. The simple life, nice people, beautiful campus, loyal fans....great team colors.....why would you leave?

[Haverhill]

All 3 depending on the situation, not all for all those reasons though...

[wiscocyclone]

How I see it:


Wayne Morgan had to go--no discipline, recruiting scandals, etc.

McCarney had to go--the alumni forced Pollard's cards. Chizik is now a verb for screwing someone at ISU.

Rhoads is a good coach and too bad he wasn't Dan's replacement.

Cael is a Chizik and his position turned because no one at ISU thought he was a Chizik.

The track position has resulted in great improvements overall. Deny that?

This thread and thinking is just total ******** in my opinion.

ISU was small potatoes in the Big XII and the NCAA unless someone makes a run at being more. Pollard is doing that and its a high risk proposition that a lot of people decided made sense. If they hadn't, Pollard wouldn't have taken the job. If you want to remain small potatoes, you have the wrong guy. Is that what you want?

Think before you drink. It's not noon yet.

[drlove]

How I see it:


Wayne Morgan had to go--no discipline, recruiting scandals, etc.

McCarney had to go--the alumni forced Pollard's cards. Chizik is now a verb for screwing someone at ISU.

Rhoads is a good coach and too bad he wasn't Dan's replacement.

Cael is a Chizik and his position turned because no one at ISU thought he was a Chizik.

The track position has resulted in great improvements overall. Deny that?

This thread and thinking is just total ******** in my opinion.

ISU was small potatoes in the Big XII and the NCAA unless someone makes a run at being more. Pollard is doing that and its a high risk proposition that a lot of people decided made sense. If they hadn't, Pollard wouldn't have taken the job. If you want to remain small potatoes, you have the wrong guy. Is that what you want?

Think before you drink. It's not noon yet.

I think it is a bit premature to say that the track and field program has had great improvement. At the Indoor Conference championships, we finished 9th (Men) and 11th (women). I was at the Drake Relays on Saturday and sat with a former Cyclone letterwinner for Bill Bergan and he was very dissappointed. Hopefully things are changing for the better, but the results on the track aren't there, yet.
Yes, Lisa Koll is a nice story, but that is one runner.

[womensbball4022]

The answer is B

[Tornado man]

I think it is a bit premature to say that the track and field program has had great improvement. At the Indoor Conference championships, we finished 9th (Men) and 11th (women). I was at the Drake Relays on Saturday and sat with a former Cyclone letterwinner for Bill Bergan and he was very dissappointed. Hopefully things are changing for the better, but the results on the track aren't there, yet.

If Cory Ihmels is indeed a good coach (and I think he is), we don't have a prayer of keeping him either if we don't build an acceptable outdoor track. How many years since we even hosted an outdoor meet?
It is shameful that even tiny high schools in Iowa have better outdoor track facilities than Iowa State.

[Wesley]

How I see it:


Wayne Morgan had to go--no discipline, recruiting scandals, etc.



Think before you drink. It's not noon yet.

What scandals? I was screwed.

Signed,

Your eternal Servant

Wayne Dish



Really, Wayne was booted because we wanted Larry E results and then received McD results in the end.

[StLouisClone]

Same reason Johnny Majors, Earl Bruce and Tim Floyd left: B.

[MoreCowbell]

ISU was small potatoes in the Big XII and the NCAA unless someone makes a run at being more. Pollard is doing that and its a high risk proposition that a lot of people decided made sense. If they hadn't, Pollard wouldn't have taken the job. If you want to remain small potatoes, you have the wrong guy. Is that what you want?

I don't doubt that JP really wants to raise ISU to another level in the Big XII and I do think he's done a good job on what he has to work with (small budget, facilities, etc...).

I think the most difficult thing for me is understanding *why* he does some things the way he does, and that is most likely stems from differences in personality more than anything. I know I couldn't do his job, so I have to trust he knows what he's doing, even if I don't always agree.

If Cory Ihmels is indeed a good coach (and I think he is), we don't have a prayer of keeping him either if we don't build an acceptable outdoor track. How many years since we even hosted an outdoor meet?
It is shameful that even tiny high schools in Iowa have better outdoor track facilities than Iowa State.

Agree. I think he has some good assistants, too (though I'm a bit biased as I know one personally).

[GeronimusClone]

What scandals? I was screwed.

Signed,

Your eternal Servant

Wayne Dish



Really, Wayne was booted because we wanted Larry E results and then received McD results in the end.

The scandal was a joke.