Baylor or UNI? Which team is less important to ISU?

[BryceC]

Why exactly?

If we're limiting this to football - I can kinda see it. Although it seems to me that we play UNI more often than we play Baylor, or maybe it just seems like it. Furthermore, IMO if we lose to UNI the season is OVER for all intesive purposes. Fan support is tanked, it's almost unrecoverable from a post season standpoint (again - this is FB).

We play them as often as Baylor in BBall, and probably more often in things like volleyball and wrestling and a number of other sports.

True - UNI has zero effect on conference issues. But they have every bit the impact, maybe more, than Baylor on post season for most sports. But who are we kidding right now in terms of conference finishes - if we can't get by UNI, we aren't making much of a splash in conference anyway.

Our fan support was just fine when we got killed by them a few years ago on the football field. Of course we followed that up with the Iowa win and IMO that has a much larger fan support factor than the UNI game.

[jaretac]

Dumb question. Baylor is a conference game.

The real question is, who would have more success in the Big 12

[egami]

you mean FBS? UNI is a D1 school as well.

They are D1-AA which is a different subdivision. He asked which division I was referring to and I specified D1 as opposed to B12. I wasn't saying they weren't a D1 school.

[delt4cy]

you mean FBS? UNI is a D1 school as well.

I refuse to conform.

It's D1AA still as far as I'm concerned.

[Aclone]

They are D1-AA which is a different subdivision. He asked which division I was referring to and I specified D1 as opposed to B12. I wasn't saying they weren't a D1 school.

There is no such thing as I-AA any more.

[Aclone]

The real question is, who would have more success in the Big 12

Oh. Well, if you put it that way, UNI would have more success than Baylor.

[Haverhill]

Dumb question. Baylor is a conference game.

I figured that mostly everyone thought that, but there are surprisingly more UNI people on here who think differently. For instance, Creighton should be a more important game in bball to them than Iowa State, and that doesnt bother me one bit.

[egami]

There is no such thing as I-AA any more.

Technically, I-AA is gone, yes. But lets continue to split hairs over the obvious.

[everyyard]

In light of a few posters from UNI and Baylor making outlandish statements about their superior athletic departments at their respective schools, I beg to ask the question which of these schools is less important than the other. To be honest I could usually care less about either school except for the one time a year we play them but they seem to think they are the most important thing we talk about. Which school is more irrelevant to Iowa State? UNI? or Baylor?

well, lets see. Baylor may be a sorry *** school but at least for now they are BigXII. UNI is not only not in our conference they aren't even D1, which makes them irrelevant except when we play them. Add to that the fact that most of them are hawkeye fans and I have to say UNI without a doubt.

[DaddyMac]

Our fan support was just fine when we got killed by them a few years ago on the football field. Of course we followed that up with the Iowa win and IMO that has a much larger fan support factor than the UNI game.

Ok - I'll try again (Jeremy, there's problems. I've had lots of DB errors popping up and my reply just vanished, weird font in typing it as well).

The last UNI loss was during Chiz's first season and the fans were optimistic as much as anything. They got a bye with that. If that were year 4 it would've been a meltdown of epic proportions.

I misinterpreted the question. I was looking at from who do I care more about, and not which team is more important to the athletic programs. It doesn't change my perspective much. I'm all for conference titles being a priority. But in the end - if Baylor is the roadblock to true conference success .....

In the end, it's pretty close to a wash IMO.

[CylentButDeadly]

I think this discussion is kind of funny and ironic, because a lot of these arguments are the same ones Iowa fans use when playing us. "It's much more important for us to beat School X from the Big 11 than it is to beat ISU".

Now, obviously UNI is FCS in football, so my point has a hole in it, but it still has merit.

Give me the option of winning the B12 North, while suffering a loss to Iowa or UNI, compared to struggling through conference season, yet getting wins against Iowa & UNI and I'll take the division championship any day. However, despite UNI having a powerhouse of a program at the FCS level, it's still an embarrassing loss if we lose to them. That being said, I think conference games do hold more weight, but losing to in-state rivals is never an easy thing to deal with.

[CRCy17]

From a football standpoint (or really any sport for that matter) I would say Baylor is more important. From a general college standpoint I would say UNI.
For me, probably because of my lifelong hatred of the Hawkeyes, I have always been more neutral towards UNI and have found myself rooting for them when they are progressing their way through the FCS championships.

The original post didn't necessarily say which would be a more important football game, but as listed in the "General Discussion" forum. I would much rather hear about news coming out of CF than Waco anyday from any aspect because an invested interest in local news.

[CycoCyclone]

To buy into that D-1AA went away means you buy into the FCS vs. FBS ********. I for one still use the D1 and D1-AA monikers because I don't want to be know as the "bowl system".

More on point, Baylor is in the conference. Baylor > UNI

[woodie]

i hope coach paul rhoads smacks the hell out of baylor and puts them and robert griffin in their place-bottom of the big 12!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Haverhill]

i hope coach paul rhoads smacks the hell out of baylor and puts them and robert griffin in their place-bottom of the big 12!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

And us at 11th?