Perhaps a full Merger with the Pac 10

**OregonCyclone** · 06-04-2010, 10:53 AM

Originally Posted by CycloneErik

That breakdown makes crazy sense for almost all of those teams. Oklahoma might have a complaint about being separated from Texas, but maybe they wouldn't, especially if they could keep their rivalry game.

You can point out resistance to Oklahoma getting put in a division separate from Texas and OSU, but you'd get even stronger resistance to creating two 5-team divisions in the Pac-10. The Pac-10 currently consists of five sets of very strong natural rivals - Washington-WSU, Oregon-OSU, Cal-Stanford, USC-UCLA, and Arizona-ASU. You going to split Cal and Stanford and put them in separate divisions? That wouldn't go over well in the Bay Area.

**benjay** · 06-04-2010, 10:55 AM

Originally Posted by OregonCyclone

You can point out resistance to Oklahoma getting put in a division separate from Texas and OSU, but you'd get even stronger resistance to creating two 5-team divisions in the Pac-10. The Pac-10 currently consists of five sets of very strong natural rivals - Washington-WSU, Oregon-OSU, Cal-Stanford, USC-UCLA, and Arizona-ASU. You going to split Cal and Stanford and put them in separate divisions? That wouldn't go over well in the Bay Area.

The current speculation on this site seems more based on wishlists than reality.

**jbhtexas** · 06-04-2010, 10:56 AM

Originally Posted by LutherClone

True, and as I think about this, what exactly does the PAC 10 gain by adding KU, KState, Baylor, and ISU that it doesn't get with sCUm, aTm, TX, OK, Okie State, and Texas Technical(ly)?
[...]
From Iowa State University:
-An AAU member institution
-Hot/cold MBB, good WBB, VB, WR (but the last three don't pay the bills)
-Iowa market (3 million people) and a toehold into the Omaha market

And if they can get the entire merger completed and wrapped up before the NCAA track and field championships next Wednesday...Lisa Koll. They do like their track and field in the Pac-10...

**CycloneErik** · 06-04-2010, 10:58 AM

Originally Posted by CyLoboClone

yes, you forgot the team we never beat- OU

I wasn't sure who I was forgetting, but there's always time a start beating them.

**alarson** · 06-04-2010, 10:59 AM

Originally Posted by kg-cyclone

Far fetched or a plan that has been in the works for a long time.

if you assume this is the case, could this rumor have been started by a pac 10 'informant' leaking this to get more leverage in any negotiations? "come more to our side, or we may take these friendly merger discussions hostile and take half your conference with us"

**isuno1fan** · 06-04-2010, 10:59 AM

Two 10 team divisions...our world will look much like it has the last 15yrs.

Would work beautifully!

**DaddyMac** · 06-04-2010, 11:01 AM

Originally Posted by isuno1fan

Two 10 team divisions...our world will look much like it has the last 15yrs.

Would work beautifully!

How would that work for FB?

9 conference games, 3 non-con, divisions to meet in championship. Probably about 12 bowl affiliations? Never see the other side outside championship?

Basketball? Play everyone once? Biggest league tourney ever?

**OregonCyclone** · 06-04-2010, 11:08 AM

Originally Posted by Clonehomer

Their TV's are all on PST. Yes, there are a lot of TV sets out there, but there won't be any games before 2 or 3 EST. By adding the central schools, you can get all those TV sets plus have some programming to get the rest of the country to watch.

Actually, this is a plus for us on the left coast. I love rolling out of bed on a Saturday morning in the fall and turning on live college football while I eat breakfast. The problem for us is that we don't have that many live games on during prime time. The ACC and SEC dreck we get from ESPN ends about 7 p.m. here. Personally, I think ESPN should be legally required to carry all Hawaii home games.

**LutherClone** · 06-04-2010, 11:11 AM

Originally Posted by OregonCyclone

Actually, this is a plus for us on the left coast. I love rolling out of bed on a Saturday morning in the fall and turning on live college football while I eat breakfast. The problem for us is that we don't have that many live games on during prime time. The ACC and SEC dreck we get from ESPN ends about 7 p.m. here. Personally, I think ESPN should be legally required to carry all Hawaii home games.

Ok, you're new here so I'll cut you some slack. However, when you say something truely sarcastic on this board, you have to add

somewhere in the post (preferably after it).

Thanks.

**drmwevr08** · 06-04-2010, 11:11 AM

Originally Posted by CycloneErik

I want to rep this breakdown, but I'm out. That last part about KSU was beautiful.

That was funny, the ISU portion was full of koolaid. ISU gets them no where near Iowas 3mil population. We don't even get half of it. And the only toe hold ISU has in Omaha is the little toe, and it mostly gets stomped on.

**LutherClone** · 06-04-2010, 11:14 AM

Originally Posted by drmwevr08

That was funny, the ISU portion was full of koolaid. ISU gets them no where near Iowas 3mil population. We don't even get half of it. And the only toe hold ISU has in Omaha is the little toe, and it mostly gets stomped on.

I'm not saying we have 3 million fans. No chance. However. The state's cable TV is basically controlled by a few providers, namely, Mediacomm. Mediacomm would almost certainly add "The Network" and other providers (like CFU in Cedar Falls) would be forced to follow suit.

It's not necessarily about "fans," it's about TV sets.

**nileo** · 06-04-2010, 11:17 AM

Originally Posted by CycloneErik

I'm not complaining here.

I like the 4 division thing, though. Has some fun to it. A division with CU, KU, KSU and whoever I'm forgetting isn't too bad for us.

It would leave us no better than we currently are in the B12 North. OU, CU, KU, KSU, OU. We are losing Neb and Mizzou, and gaining OU.

**FarminCy** · 06-04-2010, 11:18 AM

Originally Posted by LutherClone

I'm not saying we have 3 million fans. No chance. However. The state's cable TV is basically controlled by a few providers, namely, Mediacomm. Mediacomm would almost certainly add "The Network" and other providers (like CFU in Cedar Falls) would be forced to follow suit.

It's not necessarily about "fans," it's about TV sets.

Correct, and knowing the Omaha market and news coverage like I do I think there are enough ISU and KU fans in Omaha/CB to make Cox take it as well.

ISU may not get covered anywhere near what NU does in Omaha but it does get covered regularly.

**nileo** · 06-04-2010, 11:18 AM

I would like this just for the fact that Texas wouldn't be able to call all the shots. They are going to have the 2 LA schools to deal with as well as OU.

**cytech** · 06-04-2010, 11:20 AM

Originally Posted by LutherClone

I'm not saying we have 3 million fans. No chance. However. The state's cable TV is basically controlled by a few providers, namely, Mediacomm. Mediacomm would almost certainly add "The Network" and other providers (like CFU in Cedar Falls) would be forced to follow suit.

It's not necessarily about "fans," it's about TV sets.

I have to agree with this. I imagine the new network would hit all the same providers the big ten network does.