Overall the C-USA is a worse case scenario for ISU than being in a 20 league basketball team...seriously. Bite the bullet if that is the case.
Not to mention, our program would get overall better by being in association with that kind of power conference!
CUSA? Better than the MAC but certainly not better than the Big East or Mountain West. I went to a Tulane MBB game this year at Tulane and I don't think they drew 500 people for the conference game against SMU.
If we're not even trying to talk to the Big East or MWC, and only talking to CUSA, I'm done. It seems like the Big East is pretty open to the idea. JP is better than that.
I am sure JP wouldn't mind a 20 team bball conference as oppsed to CUSA.
CUSA would be a disaster. Absolute disaster.
ECU - up and coming FB program
UH - solid FB program, great MBB history, solid T&F
Marshall - decent recent FB history
Memphis - top tier MBB
Rice - Top tier baseball
SMU - solid FB history and re-emerging
USM - solid FB history, good baseball
Tulane - very good baseball
Tulsa - good MBB history, FB emerging
UAB - good MBB history, FB emerging
UCF - FB emerging...new stadium
UTEP - great MBB history
Akron - ?
BG - Urban Meyer used to coach here
Buffalo - Turner Gill used to coach here
KSU - ?
Miami - Cradle of coaches...that go elsewhere
Ohio U - Frankie Solich
Ball St - has has some ok MBB
CMU - Kelly used to coach here
EMU - ?
NIU - very undersized RBs that gain lots of yards
Toledo - ?
WMU - ?
Academically...Rice, SMU and Tulane are very very good schools. The only MAC school maybe in their league is Miami.
Bottom line is the CUSA schools are just higher profile / better schools to affiliate with. The largest endowment in the MAC is Bufallo at only about $600 million. CUSA has several schools with endowments over a billion dollars...notably Rice at $3.6 billion and SMU at $1.4 billion.
I just think that the MAC is a bunch of second and third tier midwestern schools while the schools in CUSA have more cache'.
If we end up in the CUSA when the Big East is openly campaigning (if the Big East wanted to, they could deny Jim Williams's story. They're not doing that) for us, Pollard and Geoffry should be fired.
That said, I really don't believe that they're putting that much effort into C-USA. Maybe just making sure there's and absolute worst case back up plan.
Basketball isn't going to drive this anyway, i think the Big East will let the bball schools go start their own conf if they want to, the big east needs 4 more football schools or they won't survive
Exactly. With the story on clone chronicles today about ISU maybe not pursuing the big east option, it just sounds ISU's administration is setting fans up for a move to C-USA. That should be the very last option, after all other avenues have been explored. ISU will lose so much prestige with a move down to C-USA.
This whole thread screams failure.
Heck, one person says we are headed to C-USA because they might have heard it and all of a sudden every other option is out the window and we are on a one way train to C-USA or the MAC???
Seriously, if you really don't think JP and/or GG will explore every option, then let your ignorance get the best of you. Do you really think JP thinks C-USA is a better fit for us than the Big East??? hahaha funny.
Let things unfold and take it one step at a time, stop jumping to conclusions.
I would rather try to make it as an independent than join CUSA. See if you can play the Academies, ND, and maybe an old big 8 opponent or 2.
No offense to the members of CUSA, I just would not care after having played against BCS teams for as long as we have. I'm not even going to be the conceited fan that thinks we would go there and dominate because given the drop in budget and recruiting I don't know that we would. I just couldn't get up to play Tulsa or UTEP every year.