NCAA rules in favor of profit for athlete's "likeness"

[Mr Janny]

I think scholarship money that is for room and board is already taxable anyways.

There you go. They're already taxed on the portion that is taxable. The point is this decision has nothing to do with the tax status of a scholarship.

 

[1UNI2ISU]

This is one of the stranger responses that invariably comes up in these discussions.

Why would you think anything would change about the tax status of their scholarships?

Are academic scholarships taxed?

Nope.

Those students are free to make money on their likenesses as well. Athletes would be no different.

There's already rublings (Sen Richard Burr, I believe) that they are going to try to pass legislation to make the scholarship taxable if you get any money due to your name and likeness.

 

[3TrueFans]

There's already rublings (Sen Richard Burr, I believe) that they are going to try to pass legislation to make the scholarship taxable if you get any money due to your name and likeness.

So they're going to make it so any college student with a job has to pay taxes on their entire academic scholarship? That seems unlikely.

 

[Mr Janny]

There's already rublings (Sen Richard Burr, I believe) that they are going to try to pass legislation to make the scholarship taxable if you get any money due to your name and likeness.

Good luck with that.

 

[jbindm]

Exactly. As awful as the NCAA the paying players argument has always been directed at the wrong level. The NCAA isn’t the enemy on this particular issue it is the NBA and NFL. People need to be mad at them for not allowing and not investing in young players.

Just because the NFL realized they had a perfect farm system that they didn't have to pay a dime for doesn't excuse the NCAA. The NCAA knew they didn't have the juice to take on the NFL and pressure them into changing their approach, so their solution for years was to not do anything? This is on the NCAA, because they decided to wait as long as they possibly could before California and other states forced their hand. Their lack of action, their problem.

 

[LincolnWay187]

If this turns isu athletics into garbage i say drop sports.

 

[isufbcurt]

That sounds like a job?

And your point? Anytime you perform a service for pay it's a job.

 

[moores2]

I think they'd have to be.

Wrong. Schollys for normal people are not taxable. Anything beyond books housing and tuition is taxable, but not the scholarship itself.

 

[3TrueFans]

And your point? Anytime you perform a service for pay it's a job.

You don't want them to have jobs? Or you only want them to have jobs based on their skills to perform the job and not because of who they are?

 

[Mr Janny]

Just because the NFL realized they had a perfect farm system that they didn't have to pay a dime for doesn't excuse the NCAA. The NCAA knew they didn't have the juice to take on the NFL and pressure them into changing their approach, so their solution for years was to not do anything? This is on the NCAA, because they decided to wait as long as they possibly could before California and other states forced their hand. Their lack of action, their problem.

100% this. What incentive did the NFL have to develop a farm system? The NCAA didn't cost them anything.

 

[aeroclone]

There's really no getting around that record. 80 plus years of playing. We've won 6 times.

All of the "but, the rich will get richer" arguments die a sudden and bloody death on the doorstep of a 6-75-2 record.

This is cherry picking a data point that represents one of the most lopsided series records anywhere in the country.

 

[isufbcurt]

You don't want them to have jobs? Or you only want them to have jobs based on their skills to perform the job and not because of who they are?

They currently can have jobs based on their skills (I did when I was playing). I've made it known that the whole profiting on their own likeness opens to many cans of worms that I don't like.

 

[LincolnWay187]

Could this splinter away the ncaa into two leagues? Man i have never posted so much in a thread.. this is just crazy impactful

 

[aeroclone]

The only question I have when considering this change is whether this good for Iowa State? I don't see any way that the answer to this is yes.

 

[3TrueFans]

They currently can have jobs based on their skills (I did when I was playing). I've made it known that the whole profiting on their own likeness opens to many cans of worms that I don't like.

What if they're just so god damn charismatic and good looking that their face in a commercial will sell products?

 

[Mr Janny]

This is cherry picking a data point that represents one of the most lopsided series records anywhere in the country.

And? In case you didn't notice, a lot of the arguments flying around this thread revolve around how this decision is going affect Iowa State. Hell, I'm not even the one who brought up Oklahoma. It was someone who was lamenting that we'd never beat them again thanks to this decision.

I didn't have to reach very far up into the tree to pick that cherry.

 

[3TrueFans]

This is cherry picking a data point that represents one of the most lopsided series records anywhere in the country.

Are there any perennial power football schools that we have a remotely favorable record against?

 

[isufbcurt]

What if they're just so god damn charismatic and good looking that their face in a commercial will sell products?

we've had players who modeled on the side before and it was legit

 

[isutrevman]

Yea, I really don’t understand how some just can’t figure this out. We will go back to the days where talented high school kids that are good enough to start and be stars at Iowa State will walk on at a place like Ohio State instead.

Ohio State still has a limited number of players that will see the field every year. I don't see their 2nd or 3rd string guys making more from their likeness than a starter at a school like Iowa State. A player's "likeness" and name is only valuable if they get exposure. How many incoming freshman football players would you be willing to buy an autograph from, or a jersey? 99.9% of college athletes wont make much until they have actually done something at the college level. I just don't see many boosters shelling out tens of thousands of dollars for players that may, or may not even develop into stars. I guess I could be wrong, though.

 

[jbindm]

The only question I have when considering this change is whether this good for Iowa State? I don't see any way that the answer to this is yes.

I think it's impossible to know how exactly this will change the landscape of college sports, especially when we don't even yet know how the NCAA intends to regulate it.

But look beyond ISU. Is it good that the college athletes who are putting themselves on the line can now be fairly compensated for doing so? Absolutely.