Hawkeye Basketball Recruiting
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EIU truly is a bounce pass power house. Reminds me of the dear old Red Auerbach days. That said they would be better served with a moratorium on any further recruits named McCaffery.
Are these real people?
Syracuse since 2012
Iowa since 2012
Syracuse since 2012
Iowa since 2012
Great job! Funny that Iowa has 4 TOTAL tourney wins in those 10 years. Syracuse had 4 wins in a single tourney - TWICE - during that same 10-year period. Of course, it is hard to fix Hokfan stupidity.
I mean to be fair, Fran is most definitely a “living legend” in his own right.
Suffering from an extreme form of recency bias is all I can gather. Syracuse missed tourney this year and was an 11 seed the year before. Hawks were a 5-seed and a 2-seed those two years. And still, Syracuse outperformed the hawks in the post season.
Ok if we're just going off today then yeah, I could agree Iowa is in a better spot than Cuse. Jimmy B is retiring soon and Cuse has been stuck in this weird bubbly area for a while where nobody actually thinks of them as going anywhere despite making tournament runs. Like sure, they do have them which is something Iowa cant say, but nobody really looked at Syracuse doing all that and thought anything other than "lol, nobody knows how to play against a zone"
The rest of his post is wild though. Ah yes, a high level player must live in Iowa City for a few years to truly experience life. Like what?
I'm going to see some Bucky and Hawk fans this weekend and I'm predicting blank stares if basketball comes up and I mention that WI and Iowa would have finished in the lower half of the B12 last season.
To them, iowa is "objectively" a better program than anyone but the blue bloods. In reality, they have a hard time beating any decent P6 school for a recruit unless it's a legacy or in-state lifelong fan.
Outside of the summer dead season Murph and Andy put together a pretty good show every day.
Idk I'm probably not going to say Iowa's in a better spot than 'Cuse. Their next hire is no doubt critical but Fran has topped out at Iowa.
The fan base is firmly sold at this point, the ones that back Fran still at least, that success isn't measured by 'lucky' wins in a single elimination tournament where anything can happen. They'd much rather count all their wins against Northwestern, Nebraska, Minnesota, Penn State, Rutgers, and the rest of their cupcake schedule, and their back to back All-Americans and POY winners/candidates. Never mind what little actual results those wins against hapless opponents and fancy trophies have yielded, it's more fun for them this way, rather than toil with the rigors of reality.
They beat North Carolina a few years back, and I am almost positive at the time they would have had fans that would argue with you on this.
It's hard for the Hoks to do well in the post season, after that gauntlet B1G schedule of facing Nebby 2x, Minn 2x, Northwestern 2x, etc...
Syracuse is in a much better spot than Iowa. They've stagnated a bit because Boeheim is super old and been around forever, running the same defense that opponents have had decades to observe and prepare for now. Recruiting I would imagine has tapered off a bit, because kids are probably waiting for the other shoe to drop and don't want to be caught holding the bag once he retires. Jim has even taken a play from Fran's playbook and had at least 2 of his kids play for him now, but even still, I'd take Syracuse. Boeheim is a better in-game coach than Fran on his worst day, and with all of their history and tournament success, Syracuse is about as close to a blue blood as you can be without being one.
Don't forget about Penn State, they've made some deep NIT runs in the past decade. What a gauntlet for the hawks.
I feel Syracuse is the anti-Iowa. For the past 10-15 years, they seem to struggle a bit during non-con and conference play, and have spent a lot of time on the bubble. I specifically remember a season recently where they arguably should have been left out of the field and there was some uproar in the media about it. They proceed to make a deep run to either the Sweet 16 or Elite 8. Kind of the antithesis of Fran and Iowa, who plow through hapless opponents oftentimes in destructive fashion, and have been 'safely in' the field for the last 3 years, but then can't win a game when the stakes go up, save for this year in the Big 10 tournament.
Remember the Iowa fans on social media exclaiming they'd rather have a Big 10 Tournament Title than a Sweet 16 birth? Lol
Hahahaha yes, how could I forget? I save that one for the days where I need to laugh at something to lift my spirits.
