DG and the buzzer.

**Cydog04** · 01-20-2011, 08:50 AM

So Garrett has had the ball in his hands twice this season at the end of the game with a chance to win! Both times weve lost the game cause DG turned the ball over with enough time for the other team to get the last shot! Garretts whole career I havent liked him taking buzzer beater shots of any kind. To many times we havent got a shot off at all or had to force up a bad one. He dribbles around to much and doesnt get anywhere forcing him to take a bad shot or turn it over. When do we give the ball to Anderson and say lets see what you can do?

**Haverhill** · 01-20-2011, 08:52 AM

I agree 110%, prepare to be bashed hardcore though.

**Wesley** · 01-20-2011, 08:54 AM

Two times it looked like he started to make his move three seconds too early so that the other team can come back on us.

The last 5 seconds of regulation time on defense was a pretty smooth defense plan on our part though.

Wonder if DG could have dropped the ball off sometime and then one of our outside shooters do a pump fake and draw the foul from the perimeter. Michael Jordan use to do it all the time....

**BirdOfWar** · 01-20-2011, 08:59 AM

Originally Posted by Cydog04

So Garrett has had the ball in his hands twice this season at the end of the game with a chance to win! Both times weve lost the game cause DG turned the ball over with enough time for the other team to get the last shot! Garretts whole career I havent liked him taking buzzer beater shots of any kind. To many times we havent got a shot off at all or had to force up a bad one. He dribbles around to much and doesnt get anywhere forcing him to take a bad shot or turn it over. When do we give the ball to Anderson and say lets see what you can do?

I think the OSU game is different then Nebraska. He had passed to a wide open player last night and then got called for a charge which was somewhat questionable.

I still think we have the best chance with Garrett driving or creating an open shot for someone else like last night.

**cyatheart** · 01-20-2011, 09:01 AM

Originally Posted by Wesley

Two times it looked like he started to make his move three seconds too early so that the other team can come back on us.

The last 5 seconds of regulation time on defense was a pretty smooth defense plan on our part though.

Wonder if DG could have dropped the ball off sometime and then one of our outside shooters do a pump fake and draw the foul from the perimeter. Michael Jordan use to do it all the time....

Yes, let's take the ball out of the best player on the floor's hands. The guy they haven't been able to guard all night, and the guy they are double teaming at times to get the ball out of his hands. Makes sense.

Really amazing how so many people hate on this guy, best guard in the conference, but people don't want to admit it. Really amazing.

**DRCHIRO** · 01-20-2011, 09:07 AM

We didn't lose the game in regulation, it went to overtime, unlike the Nebraska game where worst case scenario happened.

The ball needs to be in DG's hand at the end of the game. Period.

**Cydog04** · 01-20-2011, 09:10 AM

Originally Posted by cyatheart

Yes, let's take the ball out of the best player on the floor's hands. The guy they haven't been able to guard all night, and the guy they are double teaming at times to get the ball out of his hands. Makes sense.

Really amazing how so many people hate on this guy, best guard in the conference, but people don't want to admit it. Really amazing.

And yet at the end of clock they find a way to stop him. In ot Anderson started to be agressive and good things happen just like the game against his old team. Id like to see him get a chance sometime. Hes proven he can get to the basket and score as good as anyone when hes agressive.
And he likes taking the bigs shots.

**clones26** · 01-20-2011, 09:16 AM

Anderson...really!? Did you see him try to run the offense, not good. He also made the turnover that essentially lost the game in OT when it was 84-84.

**erikbj** · 01-20-2011, 09:17 AM

DG and JVB are teh reasons ISU was in position to win. Maybe he was tired after 40 minutes of play?

You would think that Greg McD was writing these comments himself. DG has become a Big 12 star.......and I would think that FH has something to do with that.

**Knownothing** · 01-20-2011, 09:32 AM

Actually this is the third time. UNI also

**LindenCy** · 01-20-2011, 09:39 AM

Last night was a totally different scenario than the previous ones. He drove, bad call and we lost.

**asmosis** · 01-20-2011, 09:53 AM

Why don't we call out Ejim for making a horrible pass at halfcourt for the turnover when we were up 76-72, then call out Ejim for fouling on that layup and also not stepping up to defend the best 3-pt shooter on the team when OSU down 3?

Did Garret make a mistake at the end of the game? I guess - as he got called for a (horrible flop) offensive foul. But he had broken down the D and had Palo wide open on the corner for a 3.

What about Vanderbeken getting the offensive rebound when we were up 6 and then just dribbling it out of bounds? He doesn't do that I'm sure we win the game. Could have run another 35 off the clock.

Our players made a lot of bonehead plays near the end of regulation last night, but you can't just blame one player. Show me a player in basketball when every time he has the ball in a last-chance-to-win situation that he's perfect? We collapsed as a team when we had a chance to get to 2-2 in the conference. Can't believe you are blaming this on Garret. He had 22 in regulation and consistently broke down OSU and controlled the game beautifully. I'm with CYATHEART and DRCHIRO -- Diante is at the top for guards in the big 12 and needs the ball in his hand to give us the best chance to win.

**ISUCyclone06** · 01-20-2011, 09:56 AM

I can coach a team to beat Iowa State at the end of close games(I couldn't get them in a close enough position to begin with but..) Every team knows Diante will have the ball and he is willing to go 1 on 5 with no help or isolation. Its not that Diante isn't great because he is a premier Big 12 point guard but at the end of games he's not premier enough to take on a whole team concentrated on him.

**ISUCyclone06** · 01-20-2011, 09:59 AM

Originally Posted by asmosis

Why don't we call out Ejim for making a horrible pass at halfcourt for the turnover when we were up 76-72, then call out Ejim for fouling on that layup and also not stepping up to defend the best 3-pt shooter on the team when OSU down 3?

Did Garret make a mistake at the end of the game? I guess - as he got called for a (horrible flop) offensive foul. But he had broken down the D and had Palo wide open on the corner for a 3.

What about Vanderbeken getting the offensive rebound when we were up 6 and then just dribbling it out of bounds? He doesn't do that I'm sure we win the game. Could have run another 35 off the clock.

Our players made a lot of bonehead plays near the end of regulation last night, but you can't just blame one player. Show me a player in basketball when every time he has the ball in a last-chance-to-win situation that he's perfect? We collapsed as a team when we had a chance to get to 2-2 in the conference. Can't believe you are blaming this on Garret. He had 22 in regulation and consistently broke down OSU and controlled the game beautifully. I'm with CYATHEART and DRCHIRO -- Diante is at the top for guards in the big 12 and needs the ball in his hand to give us the best chance to win.

100% agree with all of this! Ejim- Freshman mistakes, Vanderbeken-5th year Senior Unexcusable, Diante this isn't his first go around with same results. Team drives results and we are good at it for 37-38 minutes then it becomes Diante.