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    Re: Christopherson should be the 6th man...

    I think we need to put ejim on the bench as the sixth man. then we have scotty for the 3 and JVB as well while having a big down low to get the rebound. the thing is that we are so thin on the bench it amazing that the 7 guys that get in ever game play and make it as long as they do so really just leave it to fred. its his first year we all new things were going to be rough this year with the samll bench. let him figure it out. next year the bench will be really deep and it will be hard to figure who starts.

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    Re: Christopherson should be the 6th man...

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    Ok if healthy he will. He is one of the best shooters of all time for ISU, according to the record book, I really dont think he will be sitting on the bench much. If he had another scorer on the team think what his numbers would look like.
    I like SC and see him starting the rest of this year, but SC's numbers seem to drop as the competition gets tougher. I do understand that he has had health issues as well, but I thought I would look at his "record".


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    tt 3-11 1-6 33mins
    mizz 2-8 1-6 33mins
    osu 3-9 2-5 43mins
    bay 6-9 5-8 39mins
    kan 4-13 1-5 40mins
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    conf% .351 .333
    all% .424 .464

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    Re: Christopherson should be the 6th man...

    Melvin Ejim should not be benched for the simple fact that he is playing bad because he is playing out of position. He played well at the 4 during our non conference because he was playing against smaller weaker 4s. He is now playing against great post players and therefore he is not as successful. He is extremely frustrated i'm sure and it's showing on the court. Scott on the other hand is playing his position and he is not playing well. Yes he is injured but that doesn't make up for the fact that he isn't playing well. We need to start diante jake ejim at the 3 godfrey at the 4. Scott can come in for Jake and Ejim. Railey in for Jaime. Bubu in for Diante. It's as simple as that. If ejim isn't successful at the 3 after a few games thats when you take him out of the starting lineup. You can't say someone is bad when they are playing out of position. Plus we are getting killed at rebounding. Maybe going bigger will be better for that. I say play jake and diante 35-40 Scott and Jaime 25-30. Godfrey and Ejim 20-25. Bubu and Railey 5-10. We need Jaime and Scott to have fresh legs to hit shots. We need Railey to play more as well.
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    Re: Christopherson should be the 6th man...

    "I believe scotty then could share minutes with both Ejim and Anderson"


    I don't think that Christopherson necessarily has to be the bench guy. I too think that ISU needs Godfrey on the floor. A couple of people mentioned that it is a "next year" thing and Godfrey needs as much seasoning as possible for next year. Give DG a break now and then and have a Christopherson/Anderson/DG/Ejim 3in1out rotation in the 1st half and find the hot hand by intermission. This gives you a chance to get Vandy and Godfrey on the floor as much as possible. You can always steal minutes with the previous 4 at times.

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    Re: Christopherson should be the 6th man...

    Ejim: 18 pts, 12 rebounds, and MVP of the game... I still think Christopherson should be the 6th man but instead of substituting for Anderson and Ejim, maybe we need to sit JV more. JV still gets us more rebounds than Scotty and pulls the big man out thats why we should start JV over SC IMO.
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    Re: Christopherson should be the 6th man...

    Scotty needs starters minutes but he shouldn't be starting IMO. There should never be a situation (obviously fouls or injuries change things) that at least 2 of 3 veteran guards aren't on the floor. Moving SC to a different role could allow some more rest for DG and Jake. I just think DG and Jake are too similar at the offensive end and mixing up the rotations may help get more out of Jake on offense and help keep DG a bit more fresh.
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    Re: Christopherson should be the 6th man...

    [QUOTE=singsing;2113877]I don't care who sits at the beginning of the game. It's all about minutes played anyway. What we do need to do is stop playing Ejim out of position and get more minutes for Godfrey and Railey.

    Agree with this - we're only playing 7 guys who cares if Scottie comes off the bench. I think it is time for Railey to start playing more minutes. He'll be our big man next year so let's get him some minutes.

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    Re: Christopherson should be the 6th man...

    I want to see more McKnight to see if he has toughened up. We are not getting it done with our starting five if they cannot make threes.
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    Re: Christopherson should be the 6th man...

    Quote Originally Posted by imnclone View Post

    I like SC and see him starting the rest of this year, but SC's numbers seem to drop as the competition gets tougher. I do understand that he has had health issues as well, but I thought I would look at his "record".
    SC has hit 103 3's in his time at ISU which is 9th all time
    3-Pointers Made, Career
    1. 270 Jake Sullivan, 2001-04
    2. 190 Dedric Willoughby, 1996-97
    3. 183 Fred Hoiberg, 1992-95
    4. 146 Michael Nurse, 1999-2000
    5. 128 Hurl Beechum, 1992-95
    6. 125 Justus Thigpen, 1990-93
    7. 122 Lucca Staiger, 2009-10
    8. 106 Kantrail Horton, 2000-01
    9. 102 Rahshon Clark, 2005-08
    10. 100 Will Blalock, 2004-06
    11. 97 Bryan Petersen, 2008-09
    12. 88 Ron Bayless, 1992-93
    13. 80 Curtis Stinson, 2004-06
    80 Terry Woods, 1987-90
    15. 79 Wesley Johnson, 2007-08
    16. 77 Mike Taylor, 2007
    17. 75 Brian Pearson, 1989-92
    75 Mike Born, 1988-89
    19. 71 Julius Michalik, 1992-95

    71 Elmer Robinson, 1986-89

    His .460 3% has him in first place all time
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    1. .424 (270-637) Jake Sullivan 2001-04
    2. .414 (75-181) Mike Born 1988-89
    3. .400 (183-457) Fred Hoiberg 1992-95
    4. .400 (122-305) Lucca Staiger 2009-10
    5. .391 (88-225) Ron Bayless 1992-93
    6. .390 (190-487) Dedric Willoughby 1996-97
    7. .387 (146-377) Michael Nurse 1999-00
    8. .386 (71-184) Elmer Robinson 1986-89
    9. .383 (57-149) Tim Barnes 2002-03

    10. .382 (106-277) Kantrail Horton 2000-01

    His .470% this year has him in second place for a season

    1. .472, 60-127 Jake Sullivan , 2001-02
    2. .451, 102-226 Dedric Willoughby, 1996-97
    3. .450, 59-131 Fred Hoiberg , 1993-94
    4. .449, 61-136 Jake Sullivan , 2000-01
    5. .448, 30-67 Elmer Robinson, 1986-87
    6. .444, 20-45 Shane Power , 2000-01
    7. .435, 30-69 Will Blalock , 2003-04
    8. .433, 29-67 Brian Pearson , 1989-90
    9. .429, 45-105 Scott Christopherson, 2009-10

    10. .427, 32-75 John Neal , 2005-06

    23 games in a row with a made 3 has him in 2nd place all time

    Consecutive Games With A 3-Pointer
    1. 27 Mike Taylor, 2006-07
    2. 21 Dedric Willoughby, 1996-97
    3. 16 Lucca Staiger, 2008-09
    16 Tim Barnes, 2002-03
    5. 15 Fred Hoiberg, 1994-95
    15 Jake Sullivan, 2002-03

    15 Jake Sullivan, 2001-02

    He will have a top 10 made 3s made in a season also.

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    1. 102 Dedric Willoughby, 1997
    2. 99 Michael Nurse, 2000
    3. 89 Fred Hoiberg, 1995
    4. 88 Dedric Willoughby, 1996
    5. 82 Jake Sullivan, 2004
    6. 77 Mike Taylor, 2007
    7. 74 Lucca Staiger, 2009
    8. 67 Jake Sullivan, 2003
    9. 65 Hurl Beechum, 1995
    10. 61 Jake Sullivan, 2001
    11. 60 Jake Sullivan, 2002
    60 Jerry Curry, 1998
    13. 59 Fred Hoiberg, 1994
    14. 57 Tim Barnes, 2003
    15. 53 Kantrail Horton, 2001
    53 Kantrail Horton, 2000
    17. 50 Ron Bayless, 1993
    18. 49 Bryan Petersen, 2009
    19. 48 Lucca Staiger, 2010

    48 Bryan Petersen, 2008

    I think the numbers speak for themself. He can score from anywhere on and opens other things up for his teammates. He needs to be on the floor and get more touches.
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    Re: Christopherson should be the 6th man...

    another reason i like Ejim playing with two bigs ie JV & CG, it allows him to start the break ahead of a couple more defenders. Maybe he'd get more trailing dunks or put backs.

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    Re: Christopherson should be the 6th man...

    Our inside play was much improved last night... We lost for 2 very simple reasons; one the name Pledger and the other was 1-11 from the three by JV and SC. If we could have stopped Pledger a couple more times and hit a couple more threes there would have been no overtime.

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    Re: Christopherson should be the 6th man...

    If we had 5 Big 12 caliber starters we could put on the court, both Scotty and JVB should be coming off the bench, and could be very valuable in that role. Teams are now taking away the 3, especially from Scotty, and JVB isn't hitting. It may be that his legs are wearing down as the season goes on, as well as playing more minutes than he's equipped to do.

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    Re: Christopherson should be the 6th man...

    Quote Originally Posted by CYKOFAN View Post
    If we had 5 Big 12 caliber starters we could put on the court, both Scotty and JVB should be coming off the bench, and could be very valuable in that role. Teams are now taking away the 3, especially from Scotty, and JVB isn't hitting. It may be that his legs are wearing down as the season goes on, as well as playing more minutes than he's equipped to do.
    good point- all our guys are logging a ton of minutes. JV played 41 and SC 44, DG sat more but still posted 18 points, 5 rebounds. Thats another reason I like moving Ejim to the guard rotation.

    JV and SC won't shoot that poorly behind the arch very often. SC still had a terrific game with solid numbers.

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    Re: Christopherson should be the 6th man...

    Quote Originally Posted by CYKOFAN View Post
    If we had 5 Big 12 caliber starters we could put on the court, both Scotty and JVB should be coming off the bench, and could be very valuable in that role. Teams are now taking away the 3, especially from Scotty, and JVB isn't hitting. It may be that his legs are wearing down as the season goes on, as well as playing more minutes than he's equipped to do.
    If I were juggling the lineup right now, I would start DG, Jake, Scotty, Ejim and Godfrey, then use JVB as sixth man. I prefer getting the young players into the mix from the start, then use the change of dynamic that JVB can present for opposing defenses.

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    Re: Christopherson should be the 6th man...

    Quote Originally Posted by CYKOFAN View Post
    If we had 5 Big 12 caliber starters we could put on the court, both Scotty and JVB should be coming off the bench, and could be very valuable in that role. Teams are now taking away the 3, especially from Scotty, and JVB isn't hitting. It may be that his legs are wearing down as the season goes on, as well as playing more minutes than he's equipped to do.
    Scotty can do a lot with the ball other than hit 3s. He is good enough to start at this level.
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