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Re: Chris Babb playing SF?
McGee, Allen, Ejim, Booker, White
Scotty as three point assassin, especially the last ten minutes of halves when the other teams are worn down due to our relentless defense.
Babb covers 2, 3, and 4.
Odunsi, Sledge, Bubu spell the point.
Godfrey, Railey as needed.
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Re: Chris Babb playing SF?
 Originally Posted by Rhoadhoused Our PF is not a typical PF. We basically use a PF as a center and play with 3 guards and a SF That is only cause we dont have any other good options. Next year with White Booker Godfrey and even Railey it will be hard not to play 2 true forwards down low. I still see us playing a lot of 3 gaurd sets but I doubt Babbs plays the 2. Allen and Scott both would have to be on the bench for Babbs to play the 2 and I dont see that happening much. I saw Babbs a the rec and hes a big strong guy. He needs to play at the 3 with that size.
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Re: Chris Babb playing SF?
 Originally Posted by khaal53 I think people get too concerned about positions.  Originally Posted by Cydkar This X100. That's because most of these peeps ain't never played basketball, and if they did, it was in 5th grade where the coach (who turns out to be equally ignorant about the game) makes a big deal out of the positions....
Look at how many teams play 4 guards + 1 big guy, or 1 guard + 4 big guys. If you can play, you can play. If you got soul, you got soul, you know?
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Re: Chris Babb playing SF?
 Originally Posted by CloneIce An early guess at the starting lineup:
Allen
SC
Babb
White
Booker/Godfrey/Railey/Ejim I wish people would stop putting Allen at the point! Nobody really knows what next years lineup will be but Allen isnt a PG. Hes the type of guy you want coming off screens and moving without the ball. He is a SG. If he was gonna play point we wouldnt have brought in Mcgee. Im not saying he couldnt play it and maybe in some looks he will but I dont think thats the position that he will be the most valuble at next year. Stop putting him at the point!
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Re: Chris Babb playing SF?
Here's my broad generalization as to how I have handled lineups in the past...Put your best offensive team on the floor that isn't at a disadvantage individually on defense or rebounding. As long as you have the proper components of your offense with some guys that can handle the ball, a shooter or two, a guy that can create, and some interior scoring the offense will work itself out.
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Re: Chris Babb playing SF?
 Originally Posted by Cydog04 I wish people would stop putting Allen at the point! Nobody really knows what next years lineup will be but Allen isnt a PG. Hes the type of guy you want coming off screens and moving without the ball. He is a SG. If he was gonna play point we wouldnt have brought in Mcgee. Im not saying he couldnt play it and maybe in some looks he will but I dont think thats the position that he will be the most valuble at next year. Stop putting him at the point! Allen is a natural SG. But I think he will play some point next year. CFH has said he probably will play there as well sometimes. The above lineup was made to get our best 3 guards on the court together, but it certainly could change if someone else steps in as a full-time PG. Mcgee is not a natural PG either, his best position is SG also.... like Michael Nurse, if the descriptions of his game are accurate. I'm thinking we will try to get our best 3 guards on the floor. I think we'll see PG by committee next season. Its the position I'm most concerned about for next season, by far.
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Re: Chris Babb playing SF?
Best 5 players will start most of the games...regardless of "positions". SOME games, I expect CFH will start certain players to specifically create some matchup problems...and to stimulate competition within the team for the starting slots...but the primary starting 5 will be:
Allen
Christopherson
Babb
Ejim
White
Mghee will get the minutes when Allen or Christopherson take a break..so likely he gets 15-20 minutes per game.
Booker and Godfrey will fill in when White and Ejim sit...so I'd guess 10-15 minutes for each of them.
And that will be the top 8 who see the bulk of the minutes...others will get some spot time, likely in the 10 minute range on a busy night.
Bubu, Sledge, Odunsi and Railey will get situational PT...unless Railey RS's (which is a distinct possibility...and which would make him a VERY valuable asset the ensuing 3 years).
Minutes per game breakdown:
Allen 23
Christopherson 26
Babb 22
Ejim 23
White 27
Mghee 21
Bubu 5
Sledge 8
Odunsee 7
Godfrey 20
Booker 19
Railey....Redshirt. Not because he isn't good enough to contribute...he is. But because we have a solid rotation already with White, Booker, Godfrey and Ejim playing a little inside...and Railey, with an extra year to work out and improve his ball skils, could be something VERY special by his 5th year. Think...a mix between Paul Shirley and Martin Rancik.
This involves huge amounts of guesswork of course.
Last edited by Mesaclone1; 02-17-2011 at 10:00 AM.
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Re: Chris Babb playing SF?
I think it will be
Mcgee
Allen
SC
White
Godfrey
Babb, Booker, Melvin primary subs
Railey, Bubu, Sledge or Odunsi (I think one of these will RS) secondary subs
I think Fred will want 3 shooters in the game at any given time which is why I don't think ME starts next year.
Who knows though?
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Re: Chris Babb playing SF?
Mcgee
Allen
SC
White
Godfrey
Babb, Booker, Melvin primary subs I think most of us agree on that top 8...and that probably each of those 8 will get some starts during the year. What's terrific about this is that we're insulated a bit against injuries and foul trouble...and our guys should be able to keep fresh legs through a 40 minute game and a 30+ game season. As for the guys playing at 9, 10, and 11...they all have potential to come in and spark the team in their limited minutes. That's a nice little weapon to have in the tool bag as well.
This year, the test for CFH was whether or not he could keep the team "together", motivated and playing intellgently....and he has succeeded wildly. Next year is going to test his skills at balancing the chemistry and playing time of a lot of good players...its going to be a challenge trying to throw the right combos on the floor at the right time...and keeping everyone happy. That's a good problem to have, though...and I think he's more than up to that challenge.
I think our biggest worry is going to be finding someone who can be a GREAT ballhandler and take charge of games at the pivotal moment...not so much by scoring, but by taking care of the ball and distributing it to the right players.
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Re: Chris Babb playing SF?
 Originally Posted by CloneIce We will be in a 3-guard lineup most of the time. Babb will be one of the guardss (or the small forward if you please).
An early guess at the starting lineup:
Allen
SC
Babb
White
Booker/Godfrey/Railey/Ejim
I think Ejim is the 6th man, splitting time playing on both the wing and inside at times when we go small. Mcghee is first guard off the bench and plays a ton. I see this 9-man rotation getting most of the minutes, with the freshman guards getting spot minutes. Fred continues to say that Allen wont play point. My guess is that Allen and Scotty share the 2.
Next years starting lineup really wont matter. Pressing and running means lots of subbing and LOTS of minutes for everyone. Who starts matters NONE.
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Re: Chris Babb playing SF?
 Originally Posted by Rural McGee, Allen, Ejim, Booker, White
Scotty as three point assassin, especially the last ten minutes of halves when the other teams are worn down due to our relentless defense.
Babb covers 2, 3, and 4.
Odunsi, Sledge, Bubu spell the point.
Godfrey, Railey as needed. this would be my 5...
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Re: Chris Babb playing SF?
I just don't see Booker starting. I think it is a large leap to assume he would start over Godfrey next year.
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Re: Chris Babb playing SF?
 Originally Posted by Mesaclone1
Bubu, Sledge, Odunsi and Railey will get situational PT...unless Railey RS's (which is a distinct possibility...and which would make him a VERY valuable asset the ensuing 3 years).
Minutes per game breakdown:
Allen 23
Christopherson 26
Babb 22
Ejim 23
White 27
Mghee 21
Bubu 5
Sledge 8
Odunsee 7
Godfrey 20
Booker 19
Chris Allen on paper is going to be our best player. Our best player is not going to play only 23 minutes a game.
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Re: Chris Babb playing SF?
 Originally Posted by cykadelic2 Melvin has rarely posted up other bigs this season. Also, Melvin's ballhandling and outside shooting have not been good in conference games which is what he'll need to improve on if he expects to get PT at the 3 next season. I agree. This is not a slam on Edge. I'm sure this is not any different than what he is hearing from his coaches and his buddies on the scout team. He has performed better than can be expected coming in as a Freshman. Improve in these areas and it will open up the middle more for him as well.
"There are five real good recruits in the state. We got three of them. One couldn’t get into school, and the other went to (the University of) Iowa...which is about the same thing." - Coach Johnny Orr -
Re: Chris Babb playing SF?
 Originally Posted by Mesaclone1 Best 5 players will start most of the games...regardless of "positions". SOME games, I expect CFH will start certain players to specifically create some matchup problems...and to stimulate competition within the team for the starting slots...but the primary starting 5 will be:
Allen
Christopherson
Babb
Ejim
White
Mghee will get the minutes when Allen or Christopherson take a break..so likely he gets 15-20 minutes per game.
Booker and Godfrey will fill in when White and Ejim sit...so I'd guess 10-15 minutes for each of them.
And that will be the top 8 who see the bulk of the minutes...others will get some spot time, likely in the 10 minute range on a busy night.
Bubu, Sledge, Odunsi and Railey will get situational PT...unless Railey RS's (which is a distinct possibility...and which would make him a VERY valuable asset the ensuing 3 years).
Minutes per game breakdown:
Allen 23
Christopherson 26
Babb 22
Ejim 23
White 27
Mghee 21
Bubu 5
Sledge 8
Odunsee 7
Godfrey 20
Booker 19
Railey....Redshirt. Not because he isn't good enough to contribute...he is. But because we have a solid rotation already with White, Booker, Godfrey and Ejim playing a little inside...and Railey, with an extra year to work out and improve his ball skils, could be something VERY special by his 5th year. Think...a mix between Paul Shirley and Martin Rancik.
This involves huge amounts of guesswork of course.
I'm not seeing McKnight on this list anywhere....
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