Time for Fred to get tossed

**fwiw** · 02-23-2011, 01:07 PM

Let me Mayor, technical!

**Cyhart** · 02-23-2011, 01:11 PM

Originally Posted by VeloClone

I disagree that Fred needs to get tossed to make his point with the refs. Even watching on TV I have been able to see Fred get his points across to the officials very clearly. There are some officials who may be intimidated by a coach. There are others who will get ****** off if you show them up and you won't get the benefit of the doubt on any calls. I don't think any officials will be intimidated by a first year D-I coach. I would prefer that Fred is Fred rather than trying to be someone else. When/if he really blows (as much as Fred Hoiberg will ever blow-up), he will have a reputation for a level head and the officials will be more likely to believe that they really blew the call.

As far as the officiating goes, Texas drew more fouls and deserved to have more calls. However, the disparity was ridiculous. I don't buy the argument that ISU was not aggressive enough, either. I watched Iowa State players, front and back court alike, pass up a jump shot and drive in only to get hacked and no whistle. Obviously ISU was way overmatched and it likely didn't decide the game. However, to say that justice was blind may actually be ironically accurate in this case. Those distributing justice at times did appear to be blind. It was curious that when the game was clearly decided that suddenly ISU got a few calls and shot a few FT's. I don't believe in and am not suggesting a conspiracy, but it was curious.

Hopefully when Fred has ISU consistently in the top half of the conference, he will be getting the calls rather than getting screwed by them.

This! Absolutely.

**lakeliving** · 02-23-2011, 02:41 PM

1. You can make a point with a referee many different ways without getting a technical and I think Fred does that. I think as fans, we have frustrations and we want him to get a technical for "us", that would make "us" happy. Faulty logic in my opinion.
2. Teams that are aggressive to the hoop will get foul calls, as many on here have pointed out, we don't do a bunch of that in our typical game plan.
3. I have attended every home game but 1, and I have seen some calls I thought were missed, but can't say we have been ripped on by the refs. We are not creating our own breaks in key moments of the game, that has been our downfall, not the refereeing.

**cayin** · 02-23-2011, 07:49 PM

Anderson was very aggressive going to the hoop. He was fouled multiple times last night on drives and did not get a call until a drive in the final two minutes. Again, last nigh was one of the most one sided games I have seen from an officiating standpoint. The rules were absolutely different for each team.

**ISUFB** · 02-23-2011, 07:56 PM

Originally Posted by jsb

For the 1000th time, he was pretty damn worked up on Saturday. He was jumping around out there like a lunatic and went and talked to the refs most timeouts. He can only get a T if the ref gives him one.

He could always ask for one like in Hoosiers

**ISUFB** · 02-23-2011, 07:59 PM

For anyone who cares Fred has only gotten one T. In. His. Life.
Reason:
throwing it down in warm ups for AAU

**Psyclone Brian** · 02-23-2011, 08:10 PM

Originally Posted by ISUFB

For anyone who cares Fred has only gotten one T. In. His. Life.
Reason:
throwing it down in warm ups for AAU

Jeepers! I seriously had no idea that warm-ups were ever refereed in any organized basketball.

**ISUFB** · 02-23-2011, 08:55 PM

Originally Posted by Psyclone Brian

Jeepers! I seriously had no idea that warm-ups were ever refereed in any organized basketball.

yeah i know... that was even in Middle School!

**drednot57** · 02-23-2011, 11:43 PM

Originally Posted by ripvdub

He needs to go nuclear a la TF/LE and at least prove a point about the refs. He doesn't get fined/reprimanded for getting booted does he?

A coach is suspended for one, or more games if he or she is ejected during a game. Not worth it IMO.

**Mayday** · 02-24-2011, 04:44 PM

Originally Posted by ripvdub

He needs to go nuclear a la TF/LE and at least prove a point about the refs. He doesn't get fined/reprimanded for getting booted does he?

Tim Floyd would never "go nuclear." Except last night.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OZysiJrTLLQ]YouTube - Tim Floyd and Phil Johnson ejected from UTEP game[/ame]

**CycloneErik** · 02-24-2011, 05:06 PM

Yeah, that's a real classy performance on his part. Way to bark at the policeman. Sets a great example for dealing with anger.

**AllIowaTeams** · 02-24-2011, 06:21 PM

Originally Posted by CycloneErik

Yeah, that's a real classy performance on his part. Way to bark at the policeman. Sets a great example for dealing with anger.

I dunno. It was kind of ridiculous that the policeman came out in the first place. It's not like Floyd was waving a gun around. He got ejected from a basketball game. The policeman was a little overzealous there in my opinion.

**jdoggivjc** · 02-24-2011, 06:34 PM

For anyone who cares Fred has only gotten one T. In. His. Life. <br>
Reason:<br>
throwing it down in warm ups for AAU

Well, if you're gonna get T'd up, make it worth it...

**CtownCyclone** · 02-24-2011, 08:17 PM

Originally Posted by ISUFB

For anyone who cares Fred has only gotten one T. In. His. Life.
Reason:
throwing it down in warm ups for AAU

The first one is the hardest. Now it's old hat for him.

**CycloneErik** · 02-24-2011, 08:19 PM

Originally Posted by AllIowaTeams

I dunno. It was kind of ridiculous that the policeman came out in the first place. It's not like Floyd was waving a gun around. He got ejected from a basketball game. The policeman was a little overzealous there in my opinion.

The ref summoned the policeman, so it isn't that he just came out there.

If the ref assumed that the ejected guy who was still exploding wasn't leaving on his own, I don't have any problem with calling for the policeman to escort him out. Given the way Floyd was giving it to the policeman at first, he didn't look like a guy deliberately selecting his mood or a man with any sort of self-control in the moment.