Worst Screw Job I.S.U. Ever Got?

**Ms3r4ISU** · 03-29-2011, 04:30 PM

Originally Posted by ISUChippewa

Damn, reading all these responses for both basketball and football are reminding me of why I often find myself feeling as a Cyclone fan that God just hates Iowa State for some reason.

Nah. If we didn't have all this to "complain" about and bring back up on a regular basis, what would we do? There are only so many ways to say, "Wow, are we great or what?" without turning into the very same people we don't want on this board.

**ruxCYtable** · 03-29-2011, 04:34 PM

Originally Posted by Al_4_State

So whether or not a shot should be allowed is a "correctable error", which means that it can't be overturned and whether a shot was a 2 or 3 is not a "correctable error", which means that it CAN be overturned?

Dude, I don't know why you're arguing with me when all I'm doing is trying to explain the rule to you. We agree ISU got screwed.

The correctable error was the 2nd FT for ISU which was not properly awarded. By rule, any action that occurred between that and when the error was recognized -- the phantom three -- must stand.

**Al_4_State** · 03-29-2011, 04:45 PM

Originally Posted by ruxCYtable

Dude, I don't know why you're arguing with me when all I'm doing is trying to explain the rule to you. We agree ISU got screwed.

The correctable error was the 2nd FT for ISU which was not properly awarded. By rule, any action that occurred between that and when the error was recognized -- the phantom three -- must stand.

I'm not arguing with you. You seem to understand the rule better than me, and I'm trying to get it squared away in my head. The more you explain it out, the more it makes sense.

The conclusion I keep coming to (and maybe you have too) is that the rule itself is utterly illogical and arbitrary.

**CYdTracked** · 03-29-2011, 04:49 PM

Originally Posted by aeroclone

Yep. Going 5-17 won't get you anything in this world...... But going 5-19 will get you a promotion and a national title!

That is until they find out just how much they paid for Cam Newton...

**LindenCy** · 03-29-2011, 05:09 PM

Originally Posted by jdoggivjc

Not to mention this ISU team didn't crack the top 25 in rankings until February, didn't crack the top 10 until the last week of the season, and never cracked the top 5 until the final poll of the season. Not to mention, if my memory serves me correctly, the media picked us to finish dead last in conference that season (I know some people dispute me on this, but I swear I read that going into the season - unfortunately I cannot prove it).

I know that polling is hardly the end-all-be-all to tournament seedings, but it gives you a general impression of what people think of your team. The fact that our highest rating that season was #6, and that was going into the NCAA Tournament, would lead most nonbiased people to come to the conclusion that ISU wasn't going to get a #1 seed that year.

Hard to argue now, but the team that didn't deserve a #1 was Michigan State. They won sure, but at that time they had 7 losses. Still wouldn't have changed the game we had to play against them, but they would have had a tougher road.

**hawkeyefan21** · 03-29-2011, 05:12 PM

From what was posted on the in-game threads on this message board, one could argue that any one of the 32 games played this season was the worst screw job ISU ever got.

**ISUKyro** · 03-29-2011, 05:25 PM

I'll pick a person (probably already been said, but don't feel like reading the thread)
his name is Greg "McDermott."

**ruxCYtable** · 03-29-2011, 06:03 PM

Originally Posted by Al_4_State

The conclusion I keep coming to (and maybe you have too) is that the rule itself is utterly illogical and arbitrary.

And we agree again. It should be re-written to give officials the power to apply common sense in situations such as these. But then I suppose you'd have officials making up their own rules.

In all honesty, I would almost bet money that it was an error by the table. In situations like these it almost always is. Because otherwise I'd have a hard time believing all three officials on the court got it wrong at the same time, but stranger things HAVE happened, as we all know.

**SenorCy** · 03-29-2011, 06:27 PM

Originally Posted by hawkeyefan21

From what was posted on the in-game threads on this message board, one could argue that any one of the 32 games played this season was the worst screw job ISU ever got.

**cyguytillidie** · 03-29-2011, 07:06 PM

Hampton's best player (Williams) should receiced his 5 foul about 4 times.

**Wales** · 03-29-2011, 08:11 PM

Originally Posted by cyguytillidie

Hampton's best player (Williams) should receiced his 5 foul about 4 times.

In 1978 Iowa beat Iowa State by 1/2 a point at the Nationals in wrestling and nestled way back in the Cons. round John Bowlsby, iowa's heavyweight won a match over an Arizonia St. wrestler. The match went into overtime and it came down to a referee's decision, and was worth one team point. Bowlsby wrestled at Waterloo West, his coach wrestled at Waterloo West and the Referee was non other than their high school coach Bob Siddens. This just might trump all others.

**LindenCy** · 03-29-2011, 08:18 PM

Originally Posted by Wales

In 1978 Iowa beat Iowa State by 1/2 a point at the Nationals in wrestling and nestled way back in the Cons. round John Bowlsby, iowa's heavyweight won a match over an Arizonia St. wrestler. The match went into overtime and it came down to a referee's decision, and was worth one team point. Bowlsby wrestled at Waterloo West, his coach wrestled at Waterloo West and the Referee was non other than their high school coach Bob Siddens. This just might trump all others.

Now that is a find!

**millerforrest** · 03-29-2011, 08:18 PM

Originally Posted by CyDude16

He's back.

Go **** into the wind!

**SvrWxCy** · 03-29-2011, 08:36 PM

Originally Posted by Wales

In 1978 Iowa beat Iowa State by 1/2 a point at the Nationals in wrestling and nestled way back in the Cons. round John Bowlsby, iowa's heavyweight won a match over an Arizonia St. wrestler. The match went into overtime and it came down to a referee's decision, and was worth one team point. Bowlsby wrestled at Waterloo West, his coach wrestled at Waterloo West and the Referee was non other than their high school coach Bob Siddens. This just might trump all others.

That is an impressive find!! While the call may not have been as obvious as some of the others that have been posted, this determination factored into the loss of a National Championship and that in itself would bump this up near the top...

**SvrWxCy** · 03-29-2011, 08:37 PM

Originally Posted by hawkeyefan21

From what was posted on the in-game threads on this message board, one could argue that any one of the 32 games played this season was the worst screw job ISU ever got.

And I won't find the same on the HN board??